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Because (natural) languages is a lot of exists, it is difficult to deal in mbstring. This paragraph is... very confusing. I think it's a translation issue, because I can't tell what you're saying here as the grammar doesn't work. I recommend discussing with a native speaker to help clarify this paragraph. I'm fine with the concept, but the text needs to be tightened. --Larry Garfield