Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:122153 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21526 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2024 10:56:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2024 10:56:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=php.net; s=mail; t=1705316238; bh=Qppf1QifRw89yi18yndoEXNXU1I8uNGlP/48cPy3ddk=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:To:Cc:From; b=ko88R6h8RKWHiDR28tvGYfb4bDVTjw5OdDXyP43S7d5U7Bpbvyck348yAvMDnpoO+ lEGzFud0eJbYsePVNpJcnYqggp8P07nAaCpewgmPDQa2cD0Th0DyIh16K7tLouVCE6 imIA0M3ccP60b0PFFnRqjFPy/qPXNslBN9PUP7pJpIo3zm3rM+QX4ggxRry1wDc1JD VJWCK3U2ER2dYWBE5ItWXDfi5Vqy5qiwMVYbYUuwfAVGgyCWUZ7rVaxriBPdh0s9iu 0K9sjfLhj4TjumW6P4sVk/aEqCe6WeyTF0jS6bigAYxdEwy+fbHUqY4em4Pm8UE5wK YSU1LdDshSrEA== Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9B2180062 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2024 02:57:16 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lf1-f47.google.com (mail-lf1-f47.google.com [209.85.167.47]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2024 02:57:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lf1-f47.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-50e835800adso9318021e87.0 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2024 02:56:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1705316195; x=1705920995; darn=lists.php.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Qppf1QifRw89yi18yndoEXNXU1I8uNGlP/48cPy3ddk=; b=lzMbb8ib/5AdGbcjpXmQeWrDlTqrrCfI6Rmr6cu+/Ra1EvUmOVVClHmkJYPOAGrLY5 XfYFCwTdtGo+mL9ZDz4MvsTHhWbQmhgggP5lsw+rY9zfPqZsFgFFssJ9wTgN2GDEEU+z LqsFquOK0fTVpsu/vF7IbeDVBBiiCy50+EgsnDwtoi/bkLgd+405uvDVY0HI9t0WPhnZ ZzSn3B/2h3qE/B4PVw4yXzBR0jn20z19muK1AR6vjAO3v81b2TgPtgFs4bHjUweivFve iKmWBvxywhY1eqJDoShOezwIMuB5RUPc06amNITrCHKYc8Oz4tS7OwkpMyo7n50rQLjp J1Uw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1705316195; x=1705920995; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Qppf1QifRw89yi18yndoEXNXU1I8uNGlP/48cPy3ddk=; b=E7vNnpF+xoZxsF4xdj6FEMkBngsWpH4etvwDtdSn+9wJVybCNyCqnyJHB0CfEGcwDd edgOA8mKUQ+ogRfJQYgr8fap4u+GiDfY9gBzfeBvZ6peCE5neWE0vM8u9aTSD+AFpmON ud2YdQ40EwJeBMncEmHz04h4XNdV4yTd5WBFbcN/6GOO+NMEGT2xDklUgx/9oy6wq/id eiCMskdZ8cjkN4/lVEYwgqkQDSpb3hZTEJMI7Q4LfwVUNBN/U4vMyXFXdaw4//Zf07vd oxoHqMQGml2MWsTnhI3AxzP2ip/Iv3q83V75i8viZ+Hei8wulLLdHptYAZWyTPaI2LnL AzQA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxukH9fcy5xwdu+WZB5tExCcmHTNVZmlTc/Nkw70L3OL6SI+KVw 7rVMShUKkNwabkhS0PqVmzTDAU9vUpM48TAR8EU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IH+AHS65Yc3tBqmKCXYAHxn4Ne8Vpl8kjD4jNPbVFONtXJFmQchnlZJYQ4xllht3mYcstS9hCEwp/v5706uiT0= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:ad3:b0:50e:f881:5a24 with SMTP id n19-20020a0565120ad300b0050ef8815a24mr535567lfu.108.1705316195068; Mon, 15 Jan 2024 02:56:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1e22de79-1756-4eac-bdec-eefa0815db74@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1e22de79-1756-4eac-bdec-eefa0815db74@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 11:56:22 +0100 Message-ID: To: Daniil Gentili Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000096c89060ef9de78" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] Final-by-default anonymous classes From: nicolas.grekas+php@gmail.com (Nicolas Grekas) --000000000000096c89060ef9de78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Daniil, I've opened voting for the final-by-default anonymous classes RFC: > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/final_by_default_anonymous_classes > I voted against the proposal because as I mentioned in the previous thread on the same topic, this is a backward compatibility break that lacks ground but will have impact. Note that I voted even though I think the vote itself might be "illegal" per our policies (neither did 6 months pass, nor does the proposal make substantial changes to the previous one, to some definition of "substantial"). If the vote itself isn't allowed per this policy, then my vote is void of course. https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting#resurrecting_rejected_proposals Sorry for being a bit legalist on the topic but principles matter. We have policies and this vote is on the edge of two of them. That's a red flag for me. Nicolas --000000000000096c89060ef9de78--