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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC proposal: worker mode primitives for SAPIs
From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins)

On 5 January 2024 06:55:34 GMT, Robert Landers <landers=2Erobert@gmail=2Eco=
m> wrote:

>I already said this, but to reiterate: I, personally, hear what you
>are saying and largely agree with you; however, before we can really
>have any kind of discussion on concurrent servers, we HAVE to address
>the underlying issues that are missing from PHP=2E In PHP-src

So, let's address them=2E=2E=2E


> there are no such things as request objects

This is a non-issue=2E As has been discussed already, it's perfectly fine =
to have an event-based system where the event details are an associative ar=
ray, rather than a rich object=2E



> There are no such things as event loops=2E There are fibers,
> but absolutely no std-library i/o functions are using them

This is what the bulk of Daniil's email is suggesting a way to improve=2E


>We have a long way to go before those will be real things that we can
>have a proper conversation about in the context of php-src=2E

If we keep waiting to have the conversation, it will never happen=2E=20

And if we start building brand new APIs like infrastructure for worker-mod=
e SAPIs, in ways that are fundamentally incompatible with async, we're just=
 making more work for ourselves when we do get there=2E

Regards,

--=20
Rowan Tommins
[IMSoP]