Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:122020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60090 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2023 17:39:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2023 17:39:44 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6019180003 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2023 09:40:04 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_MISSING,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.19]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2023 09:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7693F320090C for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2023 12:39:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap50 ([10.202.2.100]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 20 Dec 2023 12:39:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= garfieldtech.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to; s=fm2; t=1703093979; x=1703180379; bh=/VEy710+h/CzttepKaAOo ybi9kdcPHjZ+eQxeUp+QTY=; b=fQlI03rX0dCZwwA6Fqc6cERX25+dmRlz12z/+ 2XZb1ietrekTT8yM6HO1V4Pc+buSLQdgoBPaf9wRWeyF+/XGIEZDuAHLhOgTIMmH VhH+4fsGYuZmgsq60qStpKeJbfTL0ZpTO0Cgkz1Lu6wXyYNz0OCbUj+W5OaHV7yV qYL/+uhEuJif0JxNPFjX0Dh8UWJe3MfQMPeyQ22Kzew0yok9Ck9dCB2DlgCpXKJk ZG/1oEkbZUWvrKKsazfY229XZVvjSbHtSTlBNCaLpRvmTMvEnOaRP7Op6Bbky10O ha1gScuZdblghhDyVQtzY6I2eI6cMM8sLxJcsOG78bsAhHBfQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t=1703093979; x= 1703180379; bh=/VEy710+h/CzttepKaAOoybi9kdcPHjZ+eQxeUp+QTY=; b=8 Egzr8Sh1h5vwhNErncAjriIK3uSak7X22aIhshGP2Z4lh747xhvB+/l9qMqS6icE dXEGQ0Vzbn/FAu2U9IZE7eVeSf2Y+SA4H73ZKlAuN/v9AChPxc0x7LrgSDCbwVKH I+jc30+i+3tU0s/f7YMw1ZvKElD3dXXxyr7jZ53KlheoqPzOMG5NqjN13J0Ygd41 RuWnqpWKTyxGFhZGJlSbb3zEblqkdN4Jk2f8iPjXghDFh1132+xShemvPFaWNM7a usMghWhan3/Gz4EDxG5T+OgcnT9rRb4ngmURlqh94E7HLsrRIXae9cOwRSiHaKMG GRsj1OSAi6TPF9ULitRuQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvkedrvdduvddguddtfecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpefofgggkfgjfhffhffvufgtgfesthhqredtreerjeenucfhrhhomhepfdfn rghrrhihucfirghrfhhivghlugdfuceolhgrrhhrhiesghgrrhhfihgvlhguthgvtghhrd gtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeffffffjeffudfggeevvdeitdetvdfgjefffeff jeelfeejteevheeghffhvdfgleenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmh epmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehlrghrrhihsehgrghrfhhivghlughtvggthhdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i8414410d:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8AB4D1700093; Wed, 20 Dec 2023 12:39:39 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.9.0-alpha0-1364-ga51d5fd3b7-fm-20231219.001-ga51d5fd3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <04DC3709-3B46-41C0-976E-E6AB28BC0D34@edison.tech> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 17:39:19 +0000 To: "php internals" Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Resource to object conversion From: larry@garfieldtech.com ("Larry Garfield") On Wed, Dec 20, 2023, at 10:18 AM, M=C3=A1t=C3=A9 Kocsis wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > Sorry for the radio silence, I was busy with other tasks. However, I > managed to improve the RFC in the recent days the following way: > - most importantly, I changed the suggested approach of the conversion= in > case of primary stream resources: the is_resource() hack mentioned a f= ew > times > before would be used in this case. > - I added impact analysis for each resource category + listed all func= tions > which return streams (even though they are not impacted). > - I added more examples, reasoning etc. > > Please read the updated proposal because I intend to start the vote sh= ortly > after the holiday season. > > Thanks, > M=C3=A1t=C3=A9 I'm concerned about the 3 way vote on the first item. Requiring a 2/3 m= ajority on a 3-mutually-exclusive option setup doesn't really work, math= ematically, and it's very possible for that to result in no conclusion. = (Or vote splitting, if 3/4 of voters want to change but split on when, = would that result in do-nothing winning?) Since "do nothing" is one of = the options, I would recommend an RCV/IRV vote here. The rest of the RFC looks good to me. --Larry Garfield