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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 13:16:42 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] New "PECL"
From: landers.robert@gmail.com (Robert Landers)

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:59=E2=80=AFAM Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wr=
ote:
>
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2023, Remi Collet wrote:
>
> > Le 05/12/2023 =C3=A0 14:45, Derick Rethans a =C3=A9crit :
> > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_N0E9xo3jn9aKrIZHIbTYaY5lXw71BpSO=
6-it4cRpDo
> > >
> > > In this first stage, we would like to invite you in commenting on the
> > > document (either inline, or here).
> >
> > As inline requires a Google account...
> >
> > > priority (optional): The installation "priority".
> >
> > 1/ I don't like this name which is ambiguous
> >
> > higher value seems to give higher priority
> > which lower are loaded first
> >
> > This prefix, used in various linux distro,
> > is really a "load order", needed when using --enable-rtld-now
> >
> > So I proprose "load order" instead
>
> We can quibble over the name :-)
>
> I picked something short. Debian calls it
> 'priority' too in their ini files. For example:
>
>         ; configuration for php common module
>         ; priority=3D20
>         extension=3Dcalendar.so
>
> > 2/ values
> >
> > Default value can be 40 or max(requirement) + 10
> >
> > In Fedora where we use this for years we have
> > (IIRC debian have different practice)
> >
> > 0-19 for zend_extension
> >       10 for opcache
> >       15 for xdebug
>
> That's not really a good default. At least Xdebug should be
> near the end of the loading order.
>
> > 20-39 for php-src extension
> >       20 for most
> >       30 if requirement (ex: pdo drivers)
> > 40-99 for other (pecl...)
> >       40 for igbinary, msgpack
> >       50 for redis which use igbinary, msgpack
>
> I am happy to pick a different default. I had picked what Debian seemed
> to have (20).
>
> I don't think it matters much though, as distribitions can decide to
> change them in their binary packages regardless.
>
> cheers,
> Derick
>
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Hello,

I don't know if you've seen this prior art:

https://github.com/mlocati/docker-php-extension-installer

It's extremely convenient for Docker images, and usually has the
ability to apply appropriate patches (such as the memcached + PHP
8.1-ish issue a couple of years ago) to get things to install. It
would be amazing if the new pecl could be as easy to use as this
wrapper/tool.

Robert Landers
Software Engineer
Utrecht NL