Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:121982 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47398 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2023 09:31:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2023 09:31:40 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F64180040 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 01:31:55 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DMARC_MISSING, SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from xdebug.org (xdebug.org [82.113.146.227]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 01:31:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9A5310C24D; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 09:31:39 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 09:31:38 +0000 (GMT) To: Larry Garfield cc: php internals In-Reply-To: <1ad1b73d-3c67-46d5-b203-dbf9c637d836@app.fastmail.com> Message-ID: <8c1fdc96-86ba-789a-9127-1dfad1032a80@php.net> References: <21ed7837-3cd4-98e5-8ec7-c97b0e2a2146@php.net> <1ad1b73d-3c67-46d5-b203-dbf9c637d836@app.fastmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8323329-1738914721-1702287099=:6327" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Collecting All Policies Into One Repository From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) --8323329-1738914721-1702287099=:6327 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Tue, 5 Dec 2023, Larry Garfield wrote: > On Tue, Dec 5, 2023, at 11:06 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: > > Hi! > > > > A while ago I started looking into all the documents (RFCs etc) that we= =20 > > have that relate to all sort of policies. From RFCs, to who can vote,= =20 > > naming, and security classifications as a result of a discussion with= =20 > > the foundations folk. > > > > Now there was another small confusion during a recent vote, we came up= =20 > > with the idea to actually go forwards with this, and make all our lives= =20 > > easier by having one place where all these documents are located. > > > > Hence I have created a (beta) repository and collected that information= : > > https://github.com/php/policies > > > > The contents are copied verbitim from RFCs, without any editing. Some= =20 > > RFCs made it into a single file as IMO they belonged together. > > > > I have also created an RFC to establish this location, as changing=20 > > policies and RFCs require an RFC: > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/policy-repository > > > > The contents are probably not exhaustive, and it is entirely possible= =20 > > that it does not include all information. I would therefore be greatful= =20 > > if you could have a look at the RFC, the collated documents, and let me= =20 > > know whether I missed anything, or whether you are missing something we= =20 > > might not even have written down yet. > > > > I am hoping that the discussion to establish this repository is=20 > > straightforwards. Further steps will include: editing the documents so= =20 > > that they read as documents, and not copy-pasted content with RFC=20 > > language, and including our existing coding standards. >=20 > Thank you for this, Derick! I very much support this initiative and=20 > look forward to it. >=20 > > Should the historical information in =E2=80=9Crelease process=E2=80=9D = be moved out=20 > > of release-process to a dedicated file? >=20 > I would say yes. The ideal structure of the document (once edited=20 > down) would be a snapshot of "how things work right now." Historical=20 > alternatives should either be just git history or a separate=20 > non-normaitive set of files. Fair enough. I also tended to go that way. > I would also ask, does this mean future changes to process would be=20 > submitted and reviewed as a PR against this repo, with the RFC for it=20 > being mostly a placeholder for "vote on this PR", with explanation? =20 > I would assume so, but it would be good to make that explicit. The RFC currently has "RFCs to add or amend to policy would then target=20 additions or modification of the documents in this repository, instead=20 of having them just as RFC text." so that was my intention. I've updated=20 the text to make this a little clearer though. cheers, Derick --=20 https://derickrethans.nl | https://xdebug.org | https://dram.io Author of Xdebug. Like it? Consider supporting me: https://xdebug.org/suppo= rt Host of PHP Internals News: https://phpinternals.news mastodon: @derickr@phpc.social @xdebug@phpc.social twitter: @derickr and @xdebug --8323329-1738914721-1702287099=:6327--