Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:121931 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60550 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2023 15:37:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2023 15:37:35 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE10180040 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2023 07:37:46 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-ej1-f50.google.com (mail-ej1-f50.google.com [209.85.218.50]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2023 07:37:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ej1-f50.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a1b68ae40f0so236785666b.0 for ; Tue, 05 Dec 2023 07:37:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1701790653; x=1702395453; darn=lists.php.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=1zoKzR8Rs0BoCf2mmityPsUjkN9Zp8rHtWbxB/PdEIw=; b=Pn2cMgS+M0z2Wxa5SL3d87qwAS1uA88dEvz37ymQP21ZTxUmn7sWBPV9saAuBlPwHj WG2pX34m8ycV2mzKjTeDnFtuogX0ijjbMICUtxMWfEYo1R5JlZmxa9w6dTBvuhjYI8vw +jLvDNYkPF01b9k4XMurwW3J4haP9N+jAUJnKFc97UAU8y9Qocw9e9x8nXXkd9Eh009T nJPnu9HxecRNusl30DFNdEdQZJEPlMyqF4U1oUncZGo5kgrVsag2oT2k9ovbyFuBkMNB mHElMKpEmgkIh/nzRpDZsK4tz8ZcScPmaXLroV1FoJnFtabB++FKTaVKFHkCzTBhZxHI vq2A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1701790653; x=1702395453; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=1zoKzR8Rs0BoCf2mmityPsUjkN9Zp8rHtWbxB/PdEIw=; b=k2mPrH9Y+T0a1JJgcXAders5j+lOQhyP6p2ysRXwJJ2Dhmf7Oqhayw+d/0rhhidTpp MaoWFAuMS3wyhej7BYF+i2lPmcGd0FTiyB5jg315BSB9SaagXDnNV7bUoZBRSZZwtHnC IlGvuqCrn+5xzELHlc4bJ/rJ2x12OFFXPP0kU08oVB1BkmiJSxitvnqRlMrYQ6+YRL0d 3ROey4A2g/fSr20yu6/IYdEimz1nSeE31O/5AWhe8qnfosxWETGAyJkDiAtbF3J8V25m f9oqTnGi5/cREsH3pil8mVbAFtc1BiZjdixOrVgTUDEvmW47gu+UTxN3w9aEYhpabXiJ XTJA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yzf8Y4KZBkwVhc6ZT2nLE2fQiLHl6D9MpymqARk00SglIgQibJF YnIjye+VMobDR/Len+DxXDFiaEzRsOFpdURqttA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGfWa2uN6v84FhGnmB2KXoEf2xAFZvPq077fmEllExSBSeWaWqdL4py6A/GhIlCe2WPudyYssoW0xpIeBG+NBc= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:6a0c:b0:a16:3da0:dd36 with SMTP id qw12-20020a1709066a0c00b00a163da0dd36mr727027ejc.48.1701790653229; Tue, 05 Dec 2023 07:37:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8d4bcca5-a2ce-5ee1-1aed-02076539433a@php.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:37:22 +0000 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Derick Rethans , PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005e309a060bc503cd" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] New "PECL" From: dragoonis@gmail.com (Paul Dragoonis) --0000000000005e309a060bc503cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 3:25=E2=80=AFPM Paul Dragoonis = wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 3:21=E2=80=AFPM Pierre Joye = wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 5, 2023, 10:13 PM Pierre Joye wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > You may mention https://github.com/FriendsOfPHP/pickle >> > >> > which supports pecl.php.net pear format, composer like support, and >> > conversion to composer format. >> > >> > I did a website as well as a test bed and we had a long with the >> composer >> > team what would be the best way to integrate it. That's something that >> > became possible with composer 2.x, which now widely used. Similarly we >> > discussed the idea to create a packagist dedicated to extensions. >> > >> > That would be, imo, the best option to date. >> > >> > >> > The current code may need some updates for php8 but nothing difficult = or >> > requiring big changes. >> > >> >> there was also a draft rfc while we were thinking to propose to bundle i= t. >> But we then decided to follow the composer's packagist philosophy instea= d. >> >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/pickle >> >> > Hi Derick, > > Thanks for creating the google doc for us, it's really easy to contribute > now, and I think I'll use this same approach for php.net/docs > modernization approach. > > I came here to write about Pierre's Pickle project, but he replied whilst > I was mid-writing this email :-) > > I'll add comments onto the Google Doc. > > Many thanks, > Paul > Hi Derick, I've added my comments, for now, in the first part of the document. As for the latter points in the document, such as json structures and so on, I think it might make sense to complete the Pickle evaluation, as a first phase thing, because the way Pickle is designed may influence how packages are structured. I'm very enthusiastic to hear how this topic evolves :-) Have a great day <3 Many thanks, Paul > > >> > >> > --0000000000005e309a060bc503cd--