Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:121705 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11600 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2023 13:30:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2023 13:30:57 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B930F18002F for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 05:30:57 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,DMARC_PASS,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lj1-f174.google.com (mail-lj1-f174.google.com [209.85.208.174]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 05:30:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lj1-f174.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2c871d566cfso541901fa.3 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 05:30:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1700227854; x=1700832654; darn=lists.php.net; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=xjL7JcNNvQkZ9ZOIOkvVPARK4LCq3lydyj3l6+QS0QU=; b=IsgIWhCWl0sQTebEXElGOmFX5ICyi51wslC/Jk+3Lu3l5g9OFKotrUSResgMkhoO90 s2yyLaTooUDAUjAPjV8kHQZ9zgjfIHSnU2lok43nmJzuXC4kEcbos+NOipTqAthBIokW fea5w/M92amKUkLB06YlAUoYQeGZLfopzFMd5dvAGwZDa4duEML7BsjHKVFgXga2ETGb Cnz2CzNjVOckxcbnLlLXE58OCYRBUKldlh6E1ogeql0SCqMY616c61FiPdOUYdyMZBJ4 U2h1Q38ZSaSXF6BWGaYadHm8X3McwxLOWA1tPKmOy68Ve+YAswHpozofCGUuZtH/Ty0n 21og== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1700227854; x=1700832654; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=xjL7JcNNvQkZ9ZOIOkvVPARK4LCq3lydyj3l6+QS0QU=; b=Zawtk7FHTQR8VGnzOZ9W40ghjOBCkj06W/fw26/WFFG2zcCpSOCRxmug3oMCjRFgfC V8hrQXTr9wf6jAJL6urihdPc/G2HjTj1dRC6mZzB1evPdl0EVHJgVaqt2G2cDCXCRZlB JNHfGOwpsWq58BueCi/AxGBdrkN/KgksZpzJohQKk/b7d4CK8v1qYEWc49uYm4p8QT6T IUp9WyyR8DmmvAaUsbcNm0iL1w1+wODiewpOkfvYZJlhG72Qxdb32qAlvPZxLL1R/BQL M9+7CpxdL3lDwPX7KHOaShKNehw2E/forSO/yxcLz++Z3dBGUOWZ3mmxHoqReEXHErjT lp6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yxq0FIrE5QYSkGGGwCdcM6neo8VcgP8O1pymu9YxFV5LYJ8SyYT k0b/piDgjOJN9untdD5jh7Q= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHt2gkHOTeeybrsTThfi2SqibmB6GO9k3zPU+D4uMn6vGXihc8rQ5tYPL7seprdBtukqIKdlg== X-Received: by 2002:a19:6510:0:b0:50a:73f0:8535 with SMTP id z16-20020a196510000000b0050a73f08535mr13918095lfb.1.1700227854140; Fri, 17 Nov 2023 05:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([89.249.45.14]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q24-20020a170906361800b0099bc80d5575sm777324ejb.200.2023.11.17.05.30.53 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 17 Nov 2023 05:30:53 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.700.6\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:30:42 +0100 Cc: PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <2b4591c1-f999-49b5-8061-67db816aa0da@gmail.com> To: Rowan Tommins X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Harmonise "untyped" and "typed" properties From: claude.pache@gmail.com (Claude Pache) > Le 17 nov. 2023 =C3=A0 11:47, Rowan Tommins = a =C3=A9crit : >=20 > On 16 November 2023 21:38:48 GMT, Jakub Zelenka wrote: >> This sounds like a huge BC break. Probably bigger and a bit harder to = fix >> than disallowing dynamic props. >=20 > More common, maybe; but trivial to fix: add "=3Dnull" at the end of = all untyped property declarations that don't already have an = initializer. It would be trivial to automate with something like Rector. >=20 The fix is trivial, but the number of files to be touched is huge. >=20 >> Maybe it would be better to do this as some sort of opt in behaviour >=20 > We already have the opt-in behaviour: add "mixed" to a property = declaration, and it no longer gets initialized to null. [...] >=20 Yes, except that an untyped (respectively `mixed`) property cannot be = redeclared as `mixed` (resp. untyped) in a subclass. A small step in the = right direction is to allow that. =E2=80=94Claude