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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Deprecate posix_times
From: bukka@php.net (Jakub Zelenka)

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On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 11:11=E2=80=AFPM <daniil@daniil.it> wrote:

> 1) Not all POSIX functions are currently exposed by the POSIX extension,
> sysconf being one of the missing ones (with IMO no good reason to add it)
>

It is exposed:
https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/66e2aa725564c2221ace7a26628afe3957f2823=
7/ext/posix/posix.c#L1232-L1241

Also we already define some SC constants so the only that is needed for
this is just adding a constant which is a very easy thing to do.


>
> 2) I am not aware of the historical reasons that lead to the addition of =
a
> duplicated, less capable function to the POSIX standard (I'm super duper
> sure there's some reason related to an implementation detail of some 30+
> year-old platform :), but PHP isn't a POSIX-compliant OS, it is not PHP's
> task to expose the entirety of the POSIX standard functions: PHP's task i=
s
> to provide a simple to use language that also exposes some *useful*
> functions from the POSIX standard, and posix_times does not fit the
> definition, in my opinion.
>

But this is a posix extension which sole purpose is to expose POSIX
functions. The extension is available only on POSIX systems. We are not
talking about function in standard extension. In such case I would share
your sentiment but this is a completely different matter.

Cheers

Jakub

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