Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:121554 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42108 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2023 16:37:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2023 16:37:08 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C1A180087 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2023 09:37:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NEUTRAL,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS16276 46.105.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from 3.mo575.mail-out.ovh.net (3.mo575.mail-out.ovh.net [46.105.58.60]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2023 09:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from director8.ghost.mail-out.ovh.net (unknown [10.109.146.240]) by mo575.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C021288C3 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2023 16:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ghost-submission-6684bf9d7b-rffx2 (unknown [10.110.208.181]) by director8.ghost.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5A421FE5D for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2023 16:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from php.earth ([37.59.142.97]) by ghost-submission-6684bf9d7b-rffx2 with ESMTPSA id fZTLKi7QQ2X+cQIAaKAsNA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 02 Nov 2023 16:37:02 +0000 Authentication-Results:garm.ovh; auth=pass (GARM-97G002722cb99c-89b7-468a-98c1-52806c370fa9, 7F94B95CB5689A6974344277EF28E3705CB03E2F) smtp.auth=peter.kokot@php.earth X-OVh-ClientIp:209.85.221.175 Received: by mail-vk1-f175.google.com with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-49d8fbd307fso469904e0c.3 for ; Thu, 02 Nov 2023 09:37:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw0gAI6yFDLbJnm7sFVxPiE7D2mXiok+wnKleQ8gJjIqJy5Uu9k 8SUuVKk2SYZWt41bwFfir+xOH1/6Jf7hxOWjmvs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFACJG8A970cScOfLZsmJSI2EKkDR4Y1w/CPtsWISoVWs/A31O+2AEUF7wpjVgRWKcZWSi6xH9AmGp2bEZBRtw= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:ac8b:0:b0:4a1:a334:57f6 with SMTP id v133-20020a1fac8b000000b004a1a33457f6mr18058376vke.1.1698943021703; Thu, 02 Nov 2023 09:37:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2023 17:36:50 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Christopher Jones Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004d760906092dff98" X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 15001208887575503366 X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvkedruddtiedgleduucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfdpvefjgfevmfevgfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecuhedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhepgghfjgfhfffkuffvvegtsegrtderredttdejnecuhfhrohhmpefrvghtvghrucfmohhkohhtuceophgvthhksehphhhprdhnvghtqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpedtgeeiheevieevfeelkeeiveefheevueeuheeikeffvefgteegveegtdfgueeghfenucffohhmrghinhepthifihhtthgvrhdrtghomhdpphhhphdrnhgvthenucfkphepuddvjedrtddrtddruddpvddtledrkeehrddvvddurddujeehpdefjedrheelrddugedvrdeljeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpeduvdejrddtrddtrddupdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepoehpvghtkhesphhhphdrnhgvtheqpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedupdhrtghpthhtohepihhnthgvrhhnrghlsheslhhishhtshdrphhhphdrnhgvthdpoffvtefjohhsthepmhhoheejhedpmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouhht Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [External] : [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] Unbundle ext/imap, ext/pspell, ext/oci8, and ext/PDO_OCI From: petk@php.net (Peter Kokot) --0000000000004d760906092dff98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 05:02, Christopher Jones wrote: > > On 2/11/2023 2:46 am, Derick Rethans wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have just opened voting on the RFC to unbundle imap, pspell, and > > oracle integrations. > > :) > > -- > https://twitter.com/ghrd > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php I'm not sure of all the details but have we missed something with the OCI extensions? Perhaps some injustice happened here? Probably it would be good to write something about the OCI extensions before the voting started and why these shouldn't be unbundled. Reasons in the RFC are quite strong and it makes the extensions difficult to maintain. Not to mention that installation on some platforms is not that trivial. That's why I've voted in favor of unbundling. Otherwise, there are many quite successful PHP extensions out there that are not part of PHP and are used extensively. However, for the success Linux packages need to adopt them, so it's possible to run sudo apt install or sudo dnf install. Cheers. --0000000000004d760906092dff98--