Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:121525 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5011 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2023 15:18:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2023 15:18:35 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4481180504 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2023 08:18:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-ej1-f45.google.com (mail-ej1-f45.google.com [209.85.218.45]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2023 08:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-f45.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-9d2d8343dc4so235598866b.0 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2023 08:18:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1698679113; x=1699283913; darn=lists.php.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=gQcML1PAw07zCTEFrAX0bujYLBJEu+7qwgUc2SeHyKg=; b=VMxiatL4gT4nyvDWFIWstreVcfXCmnbVW3fsYVsMm36pIqK0L/nb55by+CGUYWxb2a oELVegKF6hkIvG+6cufPHKymMxJ55aEkNmUoLlxYBAY7q6uLiTFHkzFEaf2lb+lYIwzb 3/XSIlCjRMlJAyOTPy2YI4PAv6kbY+29JnQopNwHQdTevgdFsIQjddqsm0JPbs9v1DmQ UThRhWyhp7eTROGAH8CdI+WX3NL4PvTQcLzAnwTvSVHEg4OcdRMmGtG7PNKixQfh7X1B k5EcGo+uZftAXt6sMQTYTAlj+GrA+kwaeAXyoBWPhxq/cPRqPrDQjmWxhFLZDD5E95nl b3UA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1698679113; x=1699283913; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=gQcML1PAw07zCTEFrAX0bujYLBJEu+7qwgUc2SeHyKg=; b=dNHNZTwIM73j+EKgX8Tam/er7ydcUA2M8wCTTr8FQOJQYq7EB3EEDUbdbQGWG7XLZ4 YJgWACz3asbQaTzrxjqRuV7ePEYvytOrPrSqPpV9oZhlTKS//yO/Gr/UewVO9WZMpSVl 7rDCcCCjZQtUZIAN0FAbHoqUlpMCbDkEPD4ObElUTFw/SPVCetiDA/BpwICgov1XCJGf Q1O+3uHEuNUKvt2vkV9XQsHCE5Cbt89Xe1NlcIGJy7kNUHsOrOQnqYmVhWLGDmKHi7l2 RvWvF/9Uw/KVeqz+674uJofFwjETYyaogSjWspXgue//8QlYvErWIn7sol+cyhWW97q7 ScZg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwtejU0TvRCL+Er2ZuY8minsTK6cbFT0pGZviLyJHwfOfoWs1wc q4/OExThhc9Znm72liBoUBPnMwYZ2VFuAMBq8Ejt+tpQ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IG1comrFDznyCn6bnpOuLmB4K5p5IN624wY49X0wtipHyRIZ9wDYBruWmJtDiY+QGCuOnvnrsOLj1lSGHKmdrc= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:d19:b0:9bf:5df1:38d2 with SMTP id gn25-20020a1709070d1900b009bf5df138d2mr7852236ejc.3.1698679112747; Mon, 30 Oct 2023 08:18:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 16:18:06 +0100 Message-ID: To: Alessandro Rosa Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001a4d860608f08dc4" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] New RFC : empty() function From: kjarli@gmail.com (Lynn) --0000000000001a4d860608f08dc4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 1:24=E2=80=AFPM Alessandro Rosa wrote: > Hi, > > I have posted a new RFC at this link > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/empty_function > where I suggested some improvements to the standard built-in empty() > function and provided a number of examples. > > Thanks, > > Alessandro Rosa > WEB : http://alessandrorosa.altervista.org > LINKEDIN : https://www.linkedin.com/in/alessandro-rosa-9b7ba67b/ If anything I'd rather see `empty()` disappear, but I'll settle with a warning to be cautious when using it. We don't need a replacement as you should create your own function to validate what you consider "empty" or not based on the given context and variable type. For me `(bool) false or "(int) 0" isn't empty either, it's still a value of sorts. --0000000000001a4d860608f08dc4--