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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 18:30:21 -0700
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Why did fibers get added to php core over something
 more fleshed out like swoole?
From: jordan.ledoux@gmail.com (Jordan LeDoux)

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On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 6:00=E2=80=AFPM Lanre Waju <lanre@online-presence.c=
a> wrote:

> It sometimes seems as though certain choices may not align with the best
> interests of the PHP community. I would appreciate it if you could
> provide insights into why this might not be the case.
>
>
To find out why Fibers was done instead of something like Swoole, I'd
suggest reading the mailing list discussions on those. That was a
discussion that DID happen on list, and you can read about it there without
us rehashing it for no particular reason.

The way you ended this email though is very "guilty until proven innocent",
and I think it's unlikely you're going to get many responses based on the
way you phrased this and the implied accusation it entails.

This is coming from someone who has their own reservations about how PHP
voting is conducted. It's a discussion that very few people want to have
because of how drawn out and heated it is likely to be, and the fact that a
significant number of people don't see any problem with the current system.
Trying to start that conversation with "it seems obviously broken, prove me
wrong" sounds like just about the worst framing that discussion could have
if you want it to be productive.

Jordan

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