Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:121128 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 32394 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2023 07:25:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2023 07:25:17 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3694018004A for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2023 00:25:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS24940 176.9.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from chrono.xqk7.com (chrono.xqk7.com [176.9.45.72]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2023 00:25:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bastelstu.be; s=mail20171119; t=1695367513; bh=qJwopzHwaA/s4aGLQ8xpkPl+lreTUM0VdP31uuRa1zU=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:from:to:cc:subject:message-id; b=QUDUgxU1T+7WtTe2SO/bwJC+3UbSwmlk0YXGfRqK6mOBQd4KlH+4/eKk2SBBkN6vo hVXGtAe1LC10S8t2aGPYWHEzfQ1icHeAsM84u1Y5F5vt09LTfQiGqVzYADdUWX8LCP YAEMVnx0efKmQGdRCQ0u8orweH+Sasy9agut5ukbS3Uto+wN/xqMdANaZNJuUQSM0J dHQNw25QSHmrHN1iCotQWj/k5/sL1a8IS7RnbP6TviUm9wTvcGUQU4t9S2puuoFeNG fUu9c89gLvEYGoDoE3XCeImbrOOxfEbaQx3EHCmLIvqKaI7rruoAUHE9/Oe6PVZSC4 86kDc4H+U6Ydw== Message-ID: <6529a816-e229-cfbb-26e4-1cc835279fd9@bastelstu.be> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 09:25:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicolas Grekas Cc: PHP internals References: Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Increasing the default BCrypt cost From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=c3=bcsterhus?=) Hi On 9/22/23 09:04, Nicolas Grekas wrote: > For the record, I voted for 11 because I think it's nicer to end users (I > guess many don't know they could have a potential DoS vector via password > submissions), and also because it's going to be easy to raise again in > 8.5/9.0. > > I was wondering if you considered also raising the Argon2 default cost? Has > this been discussed? I did not consider this, because I don't have sufficient knowledge about Argon2's behavior to write up a proper RFC for that without spreading misinformation. For the reasons mentioned in https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/120996, I do not use Argon2 myself. See also this comment for further information: https://github.com/laravel/laravel/pull/6245#issuecomment-1730504804 and the Fediverse thread I linked in the initial email opening the vote. Best regards Tim Düsterhus