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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 14:29:11 -0300
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal to unbundle imap/pspell/oci8 extensions for
 PHP 8.4
From: carlosv775@gmail.com (Vinicius Dias)

> ext/imap
>
> The library that provides the functionality in this extension, c-client,
> is no longer updated. The last release from 2007 is no longer available
> on the original distributor's (University of Washington) website, but
> there is an unofficial GitHub repository that hasn't been updated for 5
> years either (https://github.com/uw-imap/imap).
>
> You can't also use this any more with G Suite due to authentication
> changes (https://github.com/uw-imap/imap/issues/4).
>
> There are several user-land packages that are still maintained, and
> provide superior functionality:
>
> - https://github.com/PHPMailer/PHPMailer
> - https://github.com/zetacomponents/Mail/
> - https://github.com/symfony/mailer
> - https://github.com/laminas/laminas-mail
>

Those alternatives are for sending e-mails. IMAP is for reading
e-mails. They are not equivalent.
Am I missing something here?

Vinicius Dias,
Zend Certified Engineer,
iMasters PHP Certified Professional




Em qua., 13 de set. de 2023 =C3=A0s 05:50, Derick Rethans
<derick@derickrethans.nl> escreveu:
>
> Hi,
>
> In a recent chat between the PHP Foundation developers, we discussed
> unbundling several extensions.
>
>
> ext/imap
>
> The library that provides the functionality in this extension, c-client,
> is no longer updated. The last release from 2007 is no longer available
> on the original distributor's (University of Washington) website, but
> there is an unofficial GitHub repository that hasn't been updated for 5
> years either (https://github.com/uw-imap/imap).
>
> You can't also use this any more with G Suite due to authentication
> changes (https://github.com/uw-imap/imap/issues/4).
>
> There are several user-land packages that are still maintained, and
> provide superior functionality:
>
> - https://github.com/PHPMailer/PHPMailer
> - https://github.com/zetacomponents/Mail/
> - https://github.com/symfony/mailer
> - https://github.com/laminas/laminas-mail
>
>
> ext/pspell
>
> The original underlying library hasn't been updated since 2001
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pspell) and it's replacement, aspell not
> since 2019 (https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/aspell/).
>
> There are other replacements, ispell, and hunspell, but they don't seem
> to be compatible API-wise. The PECL extension "enchant" was supposed
> to be able to use with all of these, but is also no longer maintained
> (last release in 2009, https://pecl.php.net/package/enchant).
>
> Again, there are several user land composer packages
> (https://packagist.org/?query=3Dspell) that can be used instead.
>
>
> ext/oci8
>
> Requires a proprietary library from large commercial enterprise
> (https://www.oracle.com/database/technologies/instant-client.html) and
> has many outstanding bugs:
> https://bugs.php.net/search.php?cmd=3Ddisplay&package_name[]=3DPDO+OCI&pa=
ckage_name[]=3DOCI8+related&package_name[]=3DOracle+related&order_by=3Dts1&=
direction=3DASC&limit=3D30&status=3DOpen&reorder_by=3Dts1
> https://github.com/php/php-src/labels/Extension%3A%20oci8
>
> Most of the recent changes were all to skip tests.
>
> It is also one of the larger extensions left that had not had their
> resource type converted to objects. This is a major effort, and frankly,
> probably something that should be done by the corporate sponsor of the
> oracle extensions.
>
>
> Please remember, that unbundling extensions does not mean that they
> disappear. They will be moved to PECL with a release made.
>
> An RFC will of course be forthcoming, but we thought it best to email
> the list first.
>
>
> cheers,
> Derick
>
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