Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:120787 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 18673 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2023 22:57:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 2023 22:57:23 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9451A180382 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2023 15:57:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-vk1-f171.google.com (mail-vk1-f171.google.com [209.85.221.171]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2023 15:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk1-f171.google.com with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-47ea52a7c25so475943e0c.0 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2023 15:57:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1689116241; x=1689721041; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=GSC/MAhs2TzHRcFPxTlM+Mobk1Om9xW1KdZp7uBMlBU=; b=TDWnZiT07MK7ViIZTO/Wdr2krgBC42t56jyJ+RIzZm6K9+Q9/AZtlIOdoZsrCvm85u FsTp5HPcY6AoU1FN4HJr4DaA74YslOPwi8d2tBilbZYalOQY8TlJI8QXcwKS2F/wLdAG 8XvH1nPIQx4bqJyNhLw876kCc33hsztbWw82XIrPdfK40ssztUJRDALv9EzyuAIYtFkU kTOOZBdergp0v3aekJrrLxdERXFMb0oriwQOyWnpNpA+xObNA2dkYD8X7MDSr1LJ7YRb KzLLM8WJTAa3SJC4htkKpKUdoSjVvHGLgTnN2HNK/jQahcvahZfv9EWOXBseFc1PmA+n FGrQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1689116241; x=1689721041; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=GSC/MAhs2TzHRcFPxTlM+Mobk1Om9xW1KdZp7uBMlBU=; b=AANAShWAZ0lp4zCehQFmaKvWZV7utKptu4GRwEfFg5W9+BJWmLLAzXXjZR2rpWr7n2 81tSi4x3nGfH6a0EfWD+M7hDcGO/HQhzu1VAQvgaCYnnjmcfROh3LbDF8kL6VT2te436 QP5u+czQQq886pE6VSQyKmTrUe8sGjeT45Pu7BHc5MBJmUvg8Ut1OCYn1P/6LKpM21Hs oMTV3IkI/45rBxi1/wK3nwzJuSL3gj5bFlvqKrB5aaQ93fJOTvqSVNbmaZEXA9kQEIq/ xL9NNfi3rkS+nYjQmiD/s8nBXKmSqyScC6KGXpWs1AFxDOptkXYAX8b+mB5Bkd5tHMXq iitg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLZPmK03JlnUMEc4Qgkg7QI6as/em7Bb8V191HyONZv6sWs+voQE /7gYDRyURnovESbOFbxezkxcBpDdCznQU6xyLdQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlGo6Stoe37Ois47brO8aK4Eotrawo8z65Dbq0DiK23helQpK9U02CETjXo4BJBfyBsPVY7lT1bsRGCI7tpthKU= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:9e8e:0:b0:471:c1e9:f9bb with SMTP id h136-20020a1f9e8e000000b00471c1e9f9bbmr6369232vke.0.1689116241291; Tue, 11 Jul 2023 15:57:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 19:57:11 -0300 Message-ID: To: David Gebler Cc: internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008bef6206003e0530" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Interface Default Methods From: deleugyn@gmail.com (Deleu) --0000000000008bef6206003e0530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Jul 11, 2023, 7:32 PM David Gebler wrote: > Looks - sadly to me - like this isn't going to pass. I don't have vote > karma and if I did it wouldn't make a difference to the outcome, but it > would be really good for those of us who can't vote on the feature to hear > from some of the people who voted against it why they chose no. The > feedback from the discussion here seemed overall positive. It's one of > those things that's just a bit opaque to me, that quite often I see people > voting no on an RFC and we haven't heard from them in the relevant > internals threads, so we just never know why something was rejected or what > the author could have said or changed in the RFC to persuade them. > I share some of the sentiment. Although I think we have quite a few people without a vote here on this thread which might had been enough to approve this feature if we all collectively had a vote. Unfortunately the voting system is another broken problem without a fix and it's a really sad outcome at the end. This would had been one of the best PHP improvements since Construction Property Promotion and Short Arrow Functions > --0000000000008bef6206003e0530--