Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:120786 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16492 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2023 22:32:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 2023 22:32:32 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21F1180382 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2023 15:32:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-oo1-f44.google.com (mail-oo1-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2023 15:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oo1-f44.google.com with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-56597d949b1so3940731eaf.1 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2023 15:32:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1689114750; x=1691706750; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=mjxVx1V77kh6THd1cfZlGP6MpiTDRyZ+qc1uLYCoBpg=; b=c2zzwqAjLXfJHVLWcD2hakcmR8y3BjRsz82FlokFemtKpJrqZ0e2IvaxF70WHLo0oo yasfCbFJ8HOpRdqTDdntOTTJ/XXzYKgoS024xR68rf77nyQLpaGfGsCzMjKaJeHKByXp 3HpS0jMPLXjCOFk5+XEsTBopfd1rKMpNoNH0q54sXa9c1m+kgtHwGgWuhzP/Ip1KkxAO CoB5AVUpHbuIPYXAl9hKFhxE/bsKMMdquBRqXLqq0XMJb7KhU8tfxdM6OukXXeBezihY bXD8W+qXyn0ytF1W8joFma+FouGgPc+3E0m/8eNW+z9xDHVrU2RxvnvvmzzbanagBJ6F Ehjg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1689114750; x=1691706750; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=mjxVx1V77kh6THd1cfZlGP6MpiTDRyZ+qc1uLYCoBpg=; b=CKVX/bF6QiiCKMykFbAz+C6X6KO2dkZRSIMoKqNXo9DUcDA3KJkEnDbaKZ7QXdkUdJ LkK/DgeFyAzDXfHlxmsgba5Ha0wuks/1avzNeN364YS0adIGzNwEGQ8av2att/p5ZaPq TrfjEIQe99HtsAHkZyC7f6p/une4fLjPuHMLb243EUOTf1CuS7iPE2hH3nVLYe4+NlyD logHpYf2Bq8hBsXNH1IE8GHpotEDB0wv2FtEK1PzmI41HyychgobNk6IxhIxtA0T0w9C 42GwHw34IqZmgLa+siiJhnlKyfc2VA4+uMW3ICyUTz0CXMFdNiFEWckc9aKYYTaPFdbi n6Cg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLaIZug0EMLLx2Iyjy2PpVVsMnomAp27cfROxn7ztHWVmVN95mFn +HBVQAuIjdQXrafr4j6+RVzJLiEPFQ/gMw2QMIitx4G69+sGOA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlGc4FwLVHmRBLQmDx1urykyqouJ39jgUwF+xaNZRPnKDSnzskfx/jyxdsLGql+/d4WPLrU4pigPAvIsLQkDbHM= X-Received: by 2002:a4a:45ce:0:b0:563:4f17:ff4c with SMTP id y197-20020a4a45ce000000b005634f17ff4cmr11658435ooa.7.1689114750465; Tue, 11 Jul 2023 15:32:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 23:32:19 +0100 Message-ID: To: internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000afbba706003dac4a" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Interface Default Methods From: davidgebler@gmail.com (David Gebler) --000000000000afbba706003dac4a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Looks - sadly to me - like this isn't going to pass. I don't have vote karma and if I did it wouldn't make a difference to the outcome, but it would be really good for those of us who can't vote on the feature to hear from some of the people who voted against it why they chose no. The feedback from the discussion here seemed overall positive. It's one of those things that's just a bit opaque to me, that quite often I see people voting no on an RFC and we haven't heard from them in the relevant internals threads, so we just never know why something was rejected or what the author could have said or changed in the RFC to persuade them. --000000000000afbba706003dac4a--