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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2023 00:42:22 +0100
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To: Nuno Maduro <enunomaduro@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Request karma privileges to vote on PHP RFCs
From: Danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd)

On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 at 20:30, Nuno Maduro <enunomaduro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Internals,

Hi Nuno,

> I believe having a Laravel core team member on the list of members with
> voting rights would be incredibly valuable to the internals team.

All open source projects value contributions to their project really
highly compared to pretty much everything else. There is nothing
stopping you spending time and helping to improve RFCs or fix issues.

You don't need any karma or permission to do that.

> I have a strong connection with the Laravel community,

I think presenting the voice of a large number of downstream users
would be useful. Instead of giving a personal vote for yourself, how
about we*, the PHP project, think about setting up a vote for the
'Laravel project' as a voting entity?

The idea being, your users can come together and give feedback as a
single voice, in some public source the Laravel project publishes e.g.
laravel.com/net.php.wiki/rfc/some_rfc_name/feedbackrather than having
the whole burden of interacting with internals be solely on yourself.

I've been meaning to say some stuff about communication between
internals contributors and downstream users for a while now. I'll try
and finish that email, but I think setting up something like that,
would be a better path than the one we're currently on.

To note, it will probably take some time to figure this out. I'm
reasonably sure people will have opinions. Possibly quite a few.

cheers
Dan
Ack

* not that I actually am the PHP project, but I'm probably part of it.