Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:120727 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69357 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2023 01:08:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2023 01:08:57 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B59D1804F5 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2023 18:08:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-yw1-f178.google.com (mail-yw1-f178.google.com [209.85.128.178]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2023 18:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-f178.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-57688a146ecso46136877b3.2 for ; Sun, 02 Jul 2023 18:08:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=benramsey.com; s=google; t=1688346533; x=1690938533; h=to:in-reply-to:cc:references:message-id:date:subject:mime-version :from:content-transfer-encoding:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=m6tX4//8pTi0FQPswEJkT8r8wuXGbrwKXGfWo2HGA3A=; b=GN+djPFrpguMN9TYl4y5jVTQIxETE+44p9bHiYbF+ODL+4GGywLyIP74JNBYGQpO6g nPqgxjCCDCszR6/J5OJ/0yte8snBcHw7uxui3p4KFipzthmU5mPZpAWufA+rTEz9wTR2 S3kaXX9Z45NXXInGvrntH759L8gDxTjqWpdWVL7M+aZeiSzDbhCNqhEVvJlyWxfGXmtm KZOMHkpxdd8BUU99J0pqD5/rjOLKg63zQ68XPp5oIwJxm+RJZ3KETIwj5YvJtuicbsHb eJsf1url22k4adXBAq63yPUod9pxwpHCwl5MOaPxIETg03FBDg3E7I+pZJswbyZ5ZtFc t+Eg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1688346533; x=1690938533; h=to:in-reply-to:cc:references:message-id:date:subject:mime-version :from:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=m6tX4//8pTi0FQPswEJkT8r8wuXGbrwKXGfWo2HGA3A=; b=CY8LdvqaUtfcgFtVOPnuRiRtZur0a8oQ80xREv/RUPQbb4CX7gdlPTlPZ3XUR7i4d4 gIljSTo+CM3DpxTEYNlsFc3j+P2ciYrJoX4CJ65K08CUgXQCObg9bWHJTwUYvQLNT+DD FvXv0IVajt0w+xPAjovlwRbrTM3AjhS6rqd1hmW7Dt4pynOdTrbEagldxN9TohUS+XM1 OTB70rrFXyTaUMIlVgoJN7j657pR9VZpzo/7NY5yGENqg8VTAEpin0l59xzvqmuyv0oM ilShFJSuEDKUWW8DggUD+A8E30oWT+hhJGrHpZ++XJ/xemS96XxiNOqW49X6/qkW0XH4 125Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLY06kECktEVgaVhxVPbbfA9JsksmEF/HYuf70uroDWv0qV/rDc5 YDBIm52i6RslD735z1RjhhCKVxI5crfkGpe1vBLU3w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlEsh63fUPlDwS19A6v16nBndV2ipm8DMtARy59ZiJvbQTdHRDwrga5g+HzD4enFHVsxHL/9rw== X-Received: by 2002:a81:6842:0:b0:570:75e3:2eaa with SMTP id d63-20020a816842000000b0057075e32eaamr7826963ywc.25.1688346532807; Sun, 02 Jul 2023 18:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (h96-61-105-82.lvrgtn.broadband.dynamic.tds.net. [96.61.105.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z4-20020a816504000000b0056d4649670fsm4813144ywb.133.2023.07.02.18.08.51 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Jul 2023 18:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-CB9223BC-219C-4667-8D04-C0AE04D342BE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 20:08:40 -0500 Message-ID: <4C429940-AA05-4B87-ACFC-093203974175@benramsey.com> References: Cc: internals In-Reply-To: To: Levi Morrison X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (20F75) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Interface Default Methods From: ben@benramsey.com (Ben Ramsey) --Apple-Mail-CB9223BC-219C-4667-8D04-C0AE04D342BE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On Jul 2, 2023, at 19:11, Levi Morrison wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFChatter on the [Interface Default Methods RFC][1] has been quiet f= or > the past 6 days, and the feature freeze deadline is fast approaching > for PHP 8.3, so I'm moving this to vote. It'll be open for two weeks > as usual. >=20 > Thanks to everyone who discussed weaknesses in the RFC during the > discussion phase. >=20 > [1]: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/interface-default-methods I=E2=80=99m probably going to vote =E2=80=9Cyes=E2=80=9D on this, but since t= he property accessors RFC won=E2=80=99t be ready for 8.3,[1] and that RFC co= vers use of properties in interfaces, how useful will interface default meth= ods be without interface properties? Cheers, Ben [1]: https://externals.io/message/120213#120723 --Apple-Mail-CB9223BC-219C-4667-8D04-C0AE04D342BE--