Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:120724 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 34217 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2023 13:39:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 2 Jul 2023 13:39:00 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF811804B0 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2023 06:38:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lf1-f43.google.com (mail-lf1-f43.google.com [209.85.167.43]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2023 06:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-f43.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-4fb9fd28025so4739767e87.2 for ; Sun, 02 Jul 2023 06:38:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1688305137; x=1690897137; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=EOLnC7fiROwHgzOnQXwatjGiAtHVGKglA/+xyr4iIRc=; b=C2sFhCycO5+pM6dY9usbnCYGdcTSzpCCJUzIzmptkvJeyY9nuXpM4rBAkzFDH69tC6 pSs9gSr2HX8yavfmckdkr7wlOBd1RrlMCrElqOpniYGtATghTVNBKrQHW1dXQV8G/GYS vctLZIT3yT591l2fbpTCINJ1kt3tBIXcTPWPfHtemiaKRMo7KIxdkhBNoFI1o1UYibnO C6NnKdUlVA9A98WKT5FwsS+2Is7on94wx1s22YYdFGoP7aEw61Et7LLfKaALiIubLWGH +gKx6HwOtf2iZuVkrdWnsuW8EkywSb6ClAyie1ShvIYdQgHacYFFLdDz5GF0UxQb2qCx U1Vg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1688305137; x=1690897137; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=EOLnC7fiROwHgzOnQXwatjGiAtHVGKglA/+xyr4iIRc=; b=jW+H8/kErCx6hN+846V4pZ0zl/4rkWDjS0FD2GD2UIVDUZTikXyyRH2H7QCNnBfstz OeT3PEmjOtfqe4AUZF49nJYjwFDqish8byfHK7d9oJE/WZNsRugrYOHWwyprW1Eh3MVy KSuvd7WQnRcoWbILgTbwCAADPGUuydhS1grMy11nOgGR9cYb6xGOQLL0fCt7+V95Ny7N c6pwCiW5bAEtqn/ZeAglVJipunKWyAh/KMFvgoew19mbdqBTJyH9sn1h0IytDGaNMhIk oq0xz4kKR9uWGqlUZlol85lplmNLJn1zgcSSpEbZmrOm8L6wTWQvjo17l6+VpgPSZqpt vmAg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLa6ALVe1yyonIPOrr2U2JAsUIDlrp9rwxDjp3+92hlSFugtw3cC gKUYVCmYcmzRQhmifq3rMmaoHwYsY66eB8HX+XVTp+srTY4sCw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlG8WilgJIIUBJL0OjK5l8m2GyJr64KPidI/rrLVOpRe/NPYxs8bcw0I2Bm48MT7QTZ8jD0GroWBtbWw0Fe9mkc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3193:b0:4f8:5635:2cd8 with SMTP id i19-20020a056512319300b004f856352cd8mr6218570lfe.32.1688305136719; Sun, 02 Jul 2023 06:38:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <641b1ca0-d33f-4f38-ae64-81b4abce24da@app.fastmail.com> <0c12f017-7261-4581-a1e3-9cc04fd37db6@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0c12f017-7261-4581-a1e3-9cc04fd37db6@app.fastmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 10:38:20 -0300 Message-ID: To: php internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f25bd605ff812b04" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] Property hooks, nee accessors From: ericklima.comp@gmail.com (Erick de Azevedo Lima) --000000000000f25bd605ff812b04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the feedback. I hope everything works well for Ilija. Thank you also for the good work you have done. -- Erick de Azevedo Lima Em dom., 2 de jul. de 2023 =C3=A0s 09:52, Larry Garfield escreveu: > On Mon, May 8, 2023, at 4:38 PM, Larry Garfield wrote: > > Ilija Tovilo and I would like to offer another RFC for your > > consideration. It's been a while in coming, and we've evolved the > > design quite a bit just in the last week so if you saw an earlier draft > > of it in the past few months, I would encourage you to read it over > > again to make sure we're all on the same page. I'm actually pretty > > happy with where it ended up, even if it's not the original design. > > This approach eliminates several hard-to-implement edge cases while > > still providing a lot of functionality in one package. > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/property-hooks > > > > -- > > Larry Garfield > > larry@garfieldtech.com > > Hi all. > > Ilija was unfortunately hit with multiple technology failures this month, > which slowed down final development of the hooks proposal. While we=E2= =80=99re > pretty comfortable and happy with the design at this point (and it seems > most people in the discussion thread are as well), Ilija is concerned abo= ut > passing it this close to feature freeze, on the off chance that some > undiscovered implementation detail may necessitate a small API change (an= d > thus another RFC). > > Given the timing, therefore, we=E2=80=99re also going to delay the vote u= ntil > later this summer (probably), after Ilija=E2=80=99s had time to bang on t= he > implementation a bit further to make sure there=E2=80=99s no hidden gotch= as. That > will unfortunately push it to the 8.4 cycle. On the upside, that will gi= ve > it a very long settling-in time so that by the time it shows up in a stab= le > version it=E2=80=99s rock solid. > > Thanks for sticking with us. We=E2=80=99ll provide another update when I= lija=E2=80=99s > comfortable with the state of the implementation. > > --Larry Garfield > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --000000000000f25bd605ff812b04--