Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:120702 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 81097 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2023 17:26:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 2023 17:26:14 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD81F180547 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 10:26:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS29838 64.147.123.0/24 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 10:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id C498232007F1; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 13:26:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap50 ([10.202.2.100]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 27 Jun 2023 13:26:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= garfieldtech.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm2; t= 1687886770; x=1687973170; bh=X5EZ9CQfkDhg4kI323J2fDOMZx4pt57P5tU rNaknMak=; b=bhq9Y31K+qTDdZMThdMiapJWmasHJxj2yj/mnQmws7jSM5nAzz5 NTqCi/GuyDp2OpER/+iHcyQvG4gMMZIDHkWbFnxguHf37kVV5rNYeDvJQcWSvAGC EmpNQ4x0m8qnAa4j/7X075pxrDMS0aqanOyby0a95IVTx3+piU+9tfUW7BF2GxVo t7CnNsBByNxDUjYL1VAlPfHCrvVD1L3yl9iB4dRlNnFLKRWRqp0o6HnejCHX7GAn aTDTi49dYwPDldXXnwJapw3tJUBoKgqLAvSlKFXDQcz30kHGpsL1xKVZc6DMIIue Lqsr5dou/3A6Dvoz+cXCwEZUGwbeVTBIaBA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t=1687886770; x=1687973170; bh=X5EZ9CQfkDhg4 kI323J2fDOMZx4pt57P5tUrNaknMak=; b=jVU/1aKVaStWv3T7hr9PVHvrthEaf P1lXCMZVLU8+cuiwwkCnoUW5ebyTopgPaxwPrtvUc0X2rKdtubnaGfqQiqUpt0R0 TyvrD+Keu9TwtgNNoS2hp3X1eFdofJp4QxN/YXHI3CT1zIpoNYx8VJIYAFQi3uzi txlIl7gNVrKcMsXBIGJpLHNcWX7jSb3zXE9FTiKs6b7a1p/66UtKBvOpk16WubZS BkXxCQfCP8+rG8uRqtAtYseP2vn4p0ViG5owwE8E/OXFLSSD0dxahsd8PLOEInha 2fd5Btav5MJcjOSN4/yuus8WZH/3fmopUBOwOYx6rGkFCFRchsdsiqMHg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedviedrtddtgdejtdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpefofgggkfgjfhffhffvvefutgesthdtredtreertdenucfhrhhomhepfdfnrghr rhihucfirghrfhhivghlugdfuceolhgrrhhrhiesghgrrhhfihgvlhguthgvtghhrdgtoh hmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeeuleduleeikefhkeekgfeiudffjeffffehveekudeu geettdefteehkeeguedtgfenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmh grihhlfhhrohhmpehlrghrrhihsehgrghrfhhivghlughtvggthhdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i8414410d:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 070E91700089; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 13:26:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.9.0-alpha0-499-gf27bbf33e2-fm-20230619.001-gf27bbf33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <964d682a-e91b-4688-ae91-e66ed8da0c08@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <85c4cba3-93f0-48c7-a78a-e936df0c59c8@app.fastmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 17:25:48 +0000 To: "Dan Ackroyd" Cc: "php internals" Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PDO Subclasses coming to vote soon. From: larry@garfieldtech.com ("Larry Garfield") On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Dan Ackroyd wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 17:25, Larry Garfield wrote: >> >> The RFC doesn't specify if `new PDO(...)` changes behavior at all. > > That behaviour is not changed at all. > >> will PDO still have the postgres methods > > Yes, until someone does another RFC to deprecate and remove them. > >> if someone does [`new PDO(...)`], will they now get back `PdoPgsql`, > > No. > > New`ing one object, and getting a different object back would be far > too surprising to even be contemplated. > > cheers > Dan > Ack OK, thanks. I'm fine with that approach, but it would be good to make it explicit, and probably add a Future Scope for "we should probably remove the base versions eventually in a few versions" or something. --Larry Garfield