Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:120625 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3594 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2023 20:53:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 2023 20:53:13 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8576F180539 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 13:53:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wr1-f47.google.com (mail-wr1-f47.google.com [209.85.221.47]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 13:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-f47.google.com with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-307d58b3efbso3022670f8f.0 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 13:53:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1687207990; x=1689799990; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:content-language :references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:from :to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=+xGTkQ6zbzfMLj2eKtDC1grcrc43P1Kmv7YaWs8wSrs=; b=TM4HTPX0ItQBVnlnf7rCW8Eq9c6/nEFRv3kJIrTlR+vhPf6BM/KE1fHXOVKArP7/rN 6Bm0nHAJf/uVBH1ObKdQQDAN087aLP8Qbmor3NSI0YDA58UARoIEalnO5UiBSYl9FdXV 1gA2V5QxtUMqFAtIIkf9mW1jRm/WKUINSsBVK6g8KYlMXR9Cv8Fw3bLG52DatmpJp/Za AH4nFfuhojlTd/wi1iA1meghahUylBs1X/gG/NJhdqfRJPJA91W95sm2Qcay0Y7yCfn9 P5XIzJGGeK6ZLnOIXdbU88vBqfIZTYLOtj3oIN2U45+biN63uDjVgrwg7YXDSzxnUh/D /bLA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1687207990; x=1689799990; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:content-language :references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=+xGTkQ6zbzfMLj2eKtDC1grcrc43P1Kmv7YaWs8wSrs=; b=NQq+37hxgEiFUr2wzaoiomWfBCpfL8WqkQ0I4enl0As1AI4oWM0zWewsf4NYr/nR6g ECCvMl5oq/w5TEzvcevlJBcLIlpszIKYK8RePC7f+MJyaLEPgGdhu95ENY5cQsKe9Cgb eJ2Tyh/qmBaZzEKP+CJKnZsgBVtmGZSub4xkaltc5hzsLfKtvhCQO5DGVDDC37JjSiN1 tDC8YcND0rpd8KZRxaN5ktGDt31LU4wONsD5uzaMM25p1kXZAD/L5Nk6fbt4v5ch3zBk IIX/1rKdLhzeQEB9j/zS2eEycK+iNrBcYHMjitNDJ1vom4hx06HbWmfcnb/B7CCJBIXe Jzkw== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDxXzDSl4C2KBgOAFyxFdtVCRmkrPr3SnAQwQ9XCUIzd/chFg3OZ newPUy6XO7VMrq0YZXk9vj9617d4lJg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ5uDwlEk/dUojL3ZKS/jrRHUwFWawcwnBAFG96hjatCgGrj4/1hx/4egjcmPbPS6RxNLEzErw== X-Received: by 2002:adf:ec45:0:b0:30f:c9f5:7370 with SMTP id w5-20020adfec45000000b0030fc9f57370mr7605708wrn.25.1687207990356; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 13:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.22] (cpc83311-brig21-2-0-cust191.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [86.20.40.192]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id a1-20020adff7c1000000b0030fafcbbd33sm423795wrq.50.2023.06.19.13.53.09 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Jun 2023 13:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 21:53:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.12.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Interface Default Methods From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins) On 19/06/2023 20:20, David Gebler wrote: > Okay, thanks. That's really quite significant, since it changes the feature > to one which could allow changes made to interfaces to adversely impact > existing clients of an interface without those clients changing a thing. As the RFC says, it introduces a form of multiple inheritance, and inheritance in PHP doesn't make any such guarantee - to adapt your example: class A { public function foo(): void { $this->bar(); } } class B extends A { public function bar(): void { ... } } The job of detecting that class A doesn't define a contract for method bar falls to static analysers, and the same would be true for default implementations on interfaces. Regards, -- Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]