Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:120169 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 79802 invoked from network); 1 May 2023 15:09:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 1 May 2023 15:09:15 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B3C180384 for ; Mon, 1 May 2023 08:09:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-yw1-f176.google.com (mail-yw1-f176.google.com [209.85.128.176]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 1 May 2023 08:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-f176.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-55a5e0f5b1aso7960157b3.0 for ; Mon, 01 May 2023 08:09:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=beberlei-de.20221208.gappssmtp.com; s=20221208; t=1682953753; x=1685545753; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=zLgZ9YzTkSM5oTB+lZ9GOpXyXciGXQBP5dAoUDSdCHk=; b=trBdIBzimz5et/lQIDpdbf44DYcafEVUVM9pggMdtVZQ6kUhfjyTyhGWfyCmsJv5C0 kIH3npUSWvHPBFOednNEz+7zgcsn1FoAgUbgLhM4aSzy0HVlT10hOEZTmFpxnfq83+Wf GEJPrmfWaYsKKlPgSt9D2z6kCKUvBRdOaLpML+dbGo43nMMWgrCvxFnfI6Ira1ccDMVX Voam6Ddv+ENQxfM+jFJ0qJppN4MB3P/yizIcdY0jDCmCTj1xdYviubcnSIbdbczwyNTW yOyPkGFSelCq2+Q1IHuovA+YkaEXRJMu3PZhWpeUURwjzS/18T7LjTzfUV4shpocrbsr xgHw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1682953753; x=1685545753; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=zLgZ9YzTkSM5oTB+lZ9GOpXyXciGXQBP5dAoUDSdCHk=; b=OYNN6C6/AU5UDgwoA9yethfygDh7jrZng6HCoBSRX+a8SLuAdt3oQkPyp4Y/0pmrR1 2BsjGcM2lM4V7SKua32ua6ESWzSs5NJn3qb4cLtsTD5cTpg/LbF2Ipv4eDQWAYA7Dsva +2rSOMb5397EOqEPjxL90zV3NEnFBg5HmtkI/zA1tiLnseQn4Fc0ZUhHHbKzxm2RcT4f fZBfQGIi5kWzc2phbXXkaOhZ9Ce5yq9ivABeOxGrprueTPGrnbyF2YsQl8tNHh+DNrUi 1aZZJTBz7JORji3Rz0q7viaOuxBtgRCt+EJzHk89y3WymNFma6TFl+C8RiI1FwFFxOia tMhw== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDx6dAomVAZ+USCqghEr8Ts5Yw7wgemDdXi0IzIrJeCR0CzbpsMZ ssBgiEsZQ6NEum5CqvxKwVA24SeDDZT6bbrYPBa3vg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ4eJUddBcAL8ShtIzle3EVcA6o0CcynG358xi0ACciSfrkTO3wTHxD1XjCsNyM/tynwdpHRuMU1+a6bvfBm8AA= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:cc47:0:b0:55a:483:fc19 with SMTP id o68-20020a0dcc47000000b0055a0483fc19mr6060121ywd.44.1682953753252; Mon, 01 May 2023 08:09:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 1 May 2023 17:09:01 +0200 Message-ID: To: Jakub Zelenka Cc: PHP internals list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a2e9d105faa3349f" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] PHP Technical Committee From: kontakt@beberlei.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Benjamin_Au=C3=9Fenhofer?=) --000000000000a2e9d105faa3349f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 12:01=E2=80=AFPM Jakub Zelenka wrot= e: > Hi, > > The vote is now open for the RFC about introduction of the PHP Technical > Committee: > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php_technical_committee I found this idea of a TC interesting on the outset, but after carefully consideirng I voted no on this RFC because a.) i believe it to be too much bearucracy for the little benefit b.) potentially harmful depending on who is on the TC. c.) There is also no process of overuling the TC, or voting a TC out due to no confidence or something. Without the votes known of TC members, voters of the TC have no insights into who they might want to boot or keep in the next election. However introducing these data points would make everything even more complicated. Ultimately, already at the moment each controversial change can be asked to be RFCed and then the voters can decide with arguments made by people knowledgable in the area. Yes, there is always some politics involved, but the same would be true of the TC decisions. > > Regards > > Jakub > --000000000000a2e9d105faa3349f--