Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:120114 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 68127 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2023 20:49:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2023 20:49:58 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A0E180382 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2023 13:49:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-ua1-f54.google.com (mail-ua1-f54.google.com [209.85.222.54]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2023 13:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ua1-f54.google.com with SMTP id a1e0cc1a2514c-7714f479d98so1333154241.0 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2023 13:49:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1682282993; x=1684874993; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=F5KaDODClv3+E1wTczTsPYQKQObtVq6Rz5bmxcCqN9c=; b=arjxFEsfTgc+JXvdb+HQ5xjf93My8SvTCS8fgiNW2vpyB5nXQiJHrfxG9WcjVFJRzT PKApg9qyZ8Y0PPmfLFBagBRYKj1vXy6SFxizy7CW1Nb+AwYc6JxVWj3awpnuP2/yF/0q O88UPr+2xLqat/G2tLhI9R70/ZDpy83Y2k4lvlW1jyQ1166GSfQW7qeXR+xS3mFXmdOl 1uGvPpa3I7BMnr7cdbYje9Pc8u5PgeJi0c35ZDlYnRnc/Bpht08OkFVMFT9CLoyjWzvD anIxXozNxSxYg+FbQZOrErMz262vdzNJXKK/qlieoOSeBfyPFcxmB1EX+2X3sEPgbgJB MiVg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1682282993; x=1684874993; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=F5KaDODClv3+E1wTczTsPYQKQObtVq6Rz5bmxcCqN9c=; b=V51e3Jdt42C7dknZSTDYaMAn7VIUS4s6C28T3iOy6vVuXEmDnPtVsXx5xgMqvhzb2o EJjSMhyObyQHW+euj4cGAsiuD/n9XYqcCya/cja+Mr8kCDJZj7wvek0OZnwYqTXOsZ03 xVdIgsptNj9E4FDqken5mqjA5oTqyDrc7uQYMEpqbZvwxBSsQotgol27+LS54lkzA7YO VdGpNxmvOOBzNm/eZVgqf57PwqIvSMzcBFpFi11tlzqker8b0tOWIJ8FP+rc5MpbT/Nh bdfT7tgMqUaqsiaxCpAbdouLtvghMzUXtXYw580028Tfyh/M0dI/zWb7mDoq9FHHS+m+ K+2g== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9dks03TVJvS0LBpqdWmx8wMmv6Z3ufQ+zAYpiAfbMC0Mke+GlIx IRwWvfX8ipWp1i6e55dVdkTxccNCX7Z7EG70Uns= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350YtIZMypR9trb3sIS7MoFQ9NqdfVxB5azYXt1XHvrzRrVfc/iix2RoGCsngPiDoqRO5Be73ek7sHEhNYUohSJU= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f141:0:b0:42c:7ebf:a977 with SMTP id t1-20020a67f141000000b0042c7ebfa977mr5555191vsm.23.1682282993056; Sun, 23 Apr 2023 13:49:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <90094848-cf18-1b41-da8d-1abd60461940@gmx.de> <5e54ca80-efb2-4a53-8286-1c119ec4179c@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5e54ca80-efb2-4a53-8286-1c119ec4179c@app.fastmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2023 15:49:42 -0500 Message-ID: To: Casper Langemeijer Cc: PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000036804205fa070838" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Windows PECL build machine died From: mweierophinney@gmail.com ("Matthew Weier O'Phinney") --00000000000036804205fa070838 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 3:33 PM Casper Langemeijer wrote: > Nothing seems to happen on this front, and our Windows users like to move > to PHP 8.2 too. > > The windows.php.net site states: "This is because the Windows PECL build > machine died, and the team is still working on the long term plan of > building DLLs for PECL extensions with a new CI process." > > We are 1 year since the machine died. 6 month since the statement on the > website. From the point of view of our users nothing has changed, and are > questioning if the windows project is still alive. > > I'd like to ask: Is re-inventing the building process really a smart thing > to do if it means we'll be out-of-service for more than a year? > > "We're doing our best to finish that as soon as possible, and keep you up > to date." > > I'm not questioning intentions, but I hate to think this is 'our best'. We > should at least have and share a more concrete plan, possibly share a rough > timeframe and share if we hit a blocking problem. If help is needed, we > should ask. > Just as an FYI, for anybody in this situation, we (Zend) are doing Windows builds of PHP; these have an E2E testing pipeline they pass before release. Current community-supported versions can be downloaded for free, and we provide LTS versions commercially. We support around 60 PECL extensions as well. Install instructions here: https://help.zend.com/zendphp/current/content/installation/windows_installation.htm Supported extensions list: https://help.zend.com/zendphp/current/content/installation/php_pecl%20extensions.htm > --00000000000036804205fa070838--