Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:120008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8094 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2023 21:39:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 2023 21:39:43 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EED0180511 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 14:39:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-yw1-f170.google.com (mail-yw1-f170.google.com [209.85.128.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 14:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-f170.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-54c12009c30so352451647b3.9 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 14:39:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1681335582; x=1683927582; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=iMj3+kAXL94cMfj4PrxJLyjg4HJ4+/F9WjpIP1jor20=; b=PWUVBkuKvVMKbkQfqaATrD8DArJoIWY0WMnOJSeThxMOh2BIe74e5fZ/rfKJkZ77YA 72wHk3DvJtGb+yxE5atnGQPhQ4HrrT1e5me2/iiL2GMnpwrE/+odbIxaUEqq0V5EgL4p FcgiIy52A/oVNHvo2hqO3V9yPI/FxgkcLhp+am0vCyBypjdpmXX3wPXlJU0y0l65WdAo hK/HhZi8jQTTQ3/rClwjYBDjqGY5xuC0i7OUaCT10qaFnkItjvK30cZmVpxJR5bytd5W 0vKrWYxJe8AoKJl8qOv59tuoRqcEzYWD0ao+rerudGf7qe453eGU8RNO67/YH9ZRF+R9 jZEA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1681335582; x=1683927582; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=iMj3+kAXL94cMfj4PrxJLyjg4HJ4+/F9WjpIP1jor20=; b=mG6gLYuJRHRMoXnT8BSmM8R96CYUngC3p6m3bpgiGzuhPFIqD2lJjLRaGIMDKJbPtn XmGogj0Yn6nuP0UWF0wezgV0XfF3RfZFGt7fkJpCJ3w5mj4fgU/dnbLT2MAKMKhquNfj sFPKQbhjDJ6uA4m55Pa0bA72pri/U9bl3DhYDOYQl9YTsRb+kRnLm/86QEsPLg5BXxMu TWpJ7vvL6plzeWvXWnWFV0bNOCe3svdYvsm3X6m5NJhdC7aveJnK054MwzYYW8Zp2CWC c0uludA4uMjtGhETIB4XGhNiSrH9q3HbOrAV6j3H9XYQ0M1wR/NjRzkq8+QEfDXAj5DM t7lQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9dXrEsbTGRVfz7GB2wACSpgElewGvLIlVXTiexKqvyZJysup1P1 BdLVnE1vc5wOpLnFcGSwyhRzaZgNHuEPvWVwXKpn243S X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350ZDYBcb4kurJJ/l+LgtKqSkowwMfubIH10kMdjqgNUUU0A91NHjhSRCe2GO+MNed1uYO7acZVPFavwVEp0xg38= X-Received: by 2002:a81:ac5a:0:b0:54f:b56a:cd0f with SMTP id z26-20020a81ac5a000000b0054fb56acd0fmr12607ywj.3.1681335581709; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 14:39:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 22:39:31 +0100 Message-ID: To: autaut03@gmail.com Cc: PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000189b8405f92a729a" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Moving PHP internals to GitHub From: tekiela246@gmail.com (Kamil Tekiela) --000000000000189b8405f92a729a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I love this idea. Although GitHub is not perfect, it would be so much better than a mailing list. Mailings lists are annoying: they have very poor searching capabilities, you can't unsubscribe from a thread you are not interested in, you can't follow the conversation easily because it's not always obvious what is a quote and what is not, there is this annoying rule about bottom posting that makes messages more difficult to read, there is no code formatting, no editing, no tagging or organizing of message in any way, and a lot more smaller annoyances. It's the same as SMS or any other simple chat application. It's just too limited. But unfortunately, if it came to a vote, I would vote NO. The mailing list must remain IMHO. It's terrible and annoying but it's also very simple and ubiquitous. And that's what is needed for inclusivity. A lot of senior developers prefer this kind of communication method so if we asked them to switch over we could lose them. Not to mention people who have no access to GitHub because of sanctions. It's the ubiquitousness of email that makes it the best tool for the job even if it's actually terrible for technical discussions. --000000000000189b8405f92a729a--