Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:119969 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 37484 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2023 15:14:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 2023 15:14:50 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E429018054F for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 08:14:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS16276 192.99.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from processus.org (ns563681.ip-192-99-44.net [192.99.44.131]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 08:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1f0773ce-5d3c-ae8c-d908-7489d580d0ba@processus.org> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:14:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rowan Tommins , autaut03@gmail.com Cc: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <20230412140920.GD2480@phcomp.co.uk> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: processus.org; auth=pass smtp.mailfrom=pierre-php@processus.org Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Moving PHP internals to GitHub From: pierre-php@processus.org (Pierre) Le 12/04/2023 à 16:29, Rowan Tommins a écrit : > > Reactions are a nice social media feature, but I don't think I've ever seen > them used to convey anything particularly meaningful. > > If I write a comment that gets 3 smily faces, 4 angry faces, one rocket, > and one of those weird Japanese fireworks, all from people who haven't > otherwise participated in the conversation ... I'll just ignore them and > carry on. > > It's certainly not a killer feature I'd uproot an entire community for. > > Regards, I sometime wish there was reactions thought. There's ton of message I read I'd only wish to say "I agree" without sending a complete email polluting the discussion for just this. A simple up and down count would be great to visually assess how readers receipt the message. For long and complex discussions about some controversial RFC's this could have some kind of meaning. It also could allow people to express they like an RFC independently of any technical consideration, this could at least give some kind of number of people interested in feature X or Y. I'm not saying this list needs social network features, and I like it being as it is, but yes, for RFC, it sure lacks public opinion surveys, easy ones I mean, ones that anyone can stumble upon easily and say "I want it", "I don't want it" or "I don't care". There are millions of PHP developers, and nobody never reaches them to take temperature about how useful would be X or Y feature, and that's sad. I guess some RFC's would probably move faster if the developer that tries to push it explicitly knows that hundreds or thousands of people are supporting it. It would also give sense to some hard and ingrate tasks, and some explicit gratitude, recognition for the work done, it could be very positive, and simply nice for the few PHP developers doing it. That was my 2 cents about all this. Maybe what the thread creator mean is simply that the PHP development process is kind of hidden in this list, and it's not that easy to reach or read for people, even when using https://externals.io/ Best regards, -- Pierre