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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 22:23:33 +0300
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To: Gunnard engebreth <gunnard@gunnard.org>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Future stability of PHP?
From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com (Arvids Godjuks)

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On Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 22:14 Gunnard engebreth <gunnard@gunnard.org> wrote:

>
> On 4/11/23 3:09 PM, =F0=9F=98=89 Good Guy =F0=9F=98=89 wrote:
> > On 08/04/2023 19:36, Stephan Soller wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> A few days ago I migrated a project from PHP 7.1 to 8.2 and the
> >> amount of
> >> deprecations and fatal errors spooked me a bit (details below if you'r=
e
> >> interested). That got me wondering about the long-term stability of
> >> PHP (as in
> >> language and API breaks) and I looked at the RFCs. I got the
> >> impression that
> >> static typing has a lot of traction now and I have no idea of what
> >> the fallout
> >> might be of changing a dynamically typed language into a statically
> >> typed one.
> >> Also API breaks seem to become more frequent (e.g. utf8_decode). I
> >> stumbled
> >> across the language evolution RFC proposals but it seems that
> >> approach was
> >> abandoned.
> >
> > I think the php focus has shifted from its original ethos. PHP was
> > designed to be a tool to access sql databases and so the language was
> > quite simple.
> >
> > Now php has become so difficult that people are asking what is the
> > point pf PHP when programming languages such as c# or C or C++ or JS
> > can do everything. It is difficult to learn these languages but so is
> > PHP because it is becoming more like a desktop programming language.
> > Might as well spend time learning main stream programming languages.
> >
> > PHP should focus on one thing and one thing only and that is to be the
> > simplest tool for sql servers, mainly MySQL but also try supporting
> > MS-SQL and PL-SQL (Oracle's premium database system).
> >
> I think this thread's focus has shifted from its original ethos...
>
> i'll see myself out ;)
>

Touch=C3=A9.

This was just too classy of them not to acknowledge.

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