Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:119899 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45271 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2023 08:40:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2023 08:40:25 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACBE1804D4 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 01:40:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-pj1-f47.google.com (mail-pj1-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 01:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pj1-f47.google.com with SMTP id c10-20020a17090abf0a00b0023d1bbd9f9eso10235810pjs.0 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 01:40:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1681202422; x=1683794422; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=yqhAU4CJT9GhRZ/1EHoziUjQBNvCilz85Tso8nGFeJ4=; b=mDHCwNXi3gNUSvNuhL1Ki3dR5YnTKtYvPQD+xC0CDGHlJz7Tr1mvPOTsoXcpfPhFFO Q0RB1feuK7W8//1ROsuDUCzHjUlUDdTLdYKeFqejTM96jMEbBa66PD+JmByz9Vn3TO9S F4yxQMlRQuuofVxVyme9WBhO2FlzFFsZpIDwBrEM72VQsaZAPqBdzCnTK14EhwIo1UqR 20YpJRnZn75zQLgO4SXZvAuoljLirz+KSBQZ67gRXDs7fpFCWUJ8ytcHbx+IG2dpVl1Q R4S2TIxW+sW1t8TkLBjaDHqGGo+54PBoNIGsfujOFNo+kXMzfrOFMK6RJZTvVLN3ub6+ H2Ig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1681202422; x=1683794422; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=yqhAU4CJT9GhRZ/1EHoziUjQBNvCilz85Tso8nGFeJ4=; b=1p9xfvk1WTuF7EOvuJgNvCq9us8bYSfY8GS6Xe4WRAbfmTV8KFceek2UeubhGQlGzQ 5/ykAMbzyHspSZ28VYccfIVj+GDHgTWZcHqbKMgZL6dWjl+QJHe5pQHZk5a9GS9zWAHv KSVR0+0+IYK8AJrPmJINdgkC65AN0EdHuL6gzkWAnlsbgCspwKT06FKATgZG7N7VSqOs GJb9dZsUyhoD8NqeIeKecTse/Ss7nH9Z5pQi4iBcDGJQIZKoFpiHogGU4G4L1xdLYkcd 6e1ehveYn4g5f0QOkeRMti8J0mi6r4xo9ggvOShqvdNyd7ywiuXO9LRrymLt0CNo3HXG IjYw== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9c6z06SaJijMtr6hTd3ADAere5ie5Ca+uRlSHz//yi/7VR+Bojg orZ7ADhi38bQri8QK2Jq3PELXh4q6JeZ6I/Jc9BYHcM2 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350bsNBFlEREcLnl0sE4RtcORbvzfKaALkdfEZzqqWXm09OMQbe2jF5fWZq+Xlu2zc3eq3IkMJd1+vhULM7JsLQ8= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:8c85:b0:244:ae2c:d5d with SMTP id b5-20020a17090a8c8500b00244ae2c0d5dmr3762177pjo.4.1681202421897; Tue, 11 Apr 2023 01:40:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8abbed60-5569-4eca-ad12-957877feed9b@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: autaut03@gmail.com Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 11:40:10 +0300 Message-ID: To: Deleu Cc: Larry Garfield , php internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000271d2205f90b7164" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Future stability of PHP? From: autaut03@gmail.com (Alex Wells) --000000000000271d2205f90b7164 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 6:10=E2=80=AFAM Deleu wrote: > I don't want to use those weird stuff, but I'm > doing the best I can to replace every single line of old code that has be= en > written in an era that "best practices for PHP development" were not what > you and I know today. > I still do not understand why you're expecting the whole PHP project to put in enormous efforts to keep the backwards compatibility and solve your problems (temporarily) instead of you doing so. What's stopping you from using the last supported PHP version by that codebase and fixing or, worst case scenario, rewriting it if you wish, while on that (non latest) PHP version? What causes the desperation to update to the latest PHP? Is it new features or security fixes, or both? --000000000000271d2205f90b7164--