Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:119849 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 2702 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2023 09:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2023 09:53:26 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D63180539 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 02:53:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-yb1-f170.google.com (mail-yb1-f170.google.com [209.85.219.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 02:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f170.google.com with SMTP id y186so4069313yby.13 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 02:53:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1681120404; x=1683712404; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=nXuUQpdYIl+PbbrLKUioof0u/KyYzD4rH6SyBNO0Wgw=; b=gYB+2ChY7Ptp6nILGOuv17BBaZ1aQL/sJQ34a5au1l60gzZWvCdsT342ys044WqA9m mEAFtwLNMMtE9ue9Npe+BeP3r9p/H7l1q9iwuZIeKzOTL5HykEKzmsUvh+G/U9D8F7qq DL9E8Htngc7BoLFnX1tvhmW3jglb0pVdxjJBwY4PFwsIiogUlhatqrWDgG55CljGaHPb IGeacfUnOB7aK4/wyuSKucggPhJ0HLKpwvh//G8zWbAEi6L7tuQH/nACk2Uxd5avgT/5 uEL8+CMPkFcypq9Q01s6caDXn4OviZ9B/n9jukY0hqaiaOLvkAkjaKaJ0G5vux4etl05 hMpQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1681120404; x=1683712404; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=nXuUQpdYIl+PbbrLKUioof0u/KyYzD4rH6SyBNO0Wgw=; b=jGN5gzOUZMBUoLXSOsbA7dgHPRIEVNjWj5rTwdByhmyK1ro3Ximeu0nYbK3SP/eBq4 GQlv648RPhfOQzyd+UwoWWVNxLZzlgy3BJzTiSfMdMNYs3sehV11c4qdgbILe4WZsddT n6qC0pOyYBdlhtaOYWKfafU2J055wQ7FsxsjfEAo41EB/N+tR9kp+PDLMbYpnRsPw2Te B3W/+F9Wi933ddD3cKH8j6A2x9eVmTJYfir2WyGLZGhyMJjrrP3VN9spkYkc1ozWMcwo uqOmo5DTHodOQ4bEBrwb/Z5ODoOjubw+AXezp4QrEO9ihnsdFCYapCRbt4YduVq288+q o8JA== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9czTlvTQxXHadn77cOHTOR407nqZ8BNopCE4MFDdknKI6arRIvN lYUbSDL55F4bHQ75gtb29+/87RGOEpgwB9dGaVuhkaMl X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350ajsU1hIbq8vDMNVmDrdpn9giiz+SukaU/2LUjE7teZpvi7gFDG8IAzE/sFoyOkhGrnBR9Wg+CpCDtpxg+uumo= X-Received: by 2002:a25:d958:0:b0:b75:3fd4:1b31 with SMTP id q85-20020a25d958000000b00b753fd41b31mr6712532ybg.1.1681120404592; Mon, 10 Apr 2023 02:53:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 10:53:13 +0100 Message-ID: To: Deleu Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008a5d9f05f8f85889" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Future stability of PHP? From: tekiela246@gmail.com (Kamil Tekiela) --0000000000008a5d9f05f8f85889 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 04:17 Deleu wrote: > > Or maybe when you wrote "Even if nothing would change in PHP 8" you meant > something different than what I interpreted? > I meant things like refactoring, fixing bugs, updating dependencies. Changes in code unrelated to changes in the language. When people leave technical debt for later, the upgrade becomes more painful to them. > --0000000000008a5d9f05f8f85889--