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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 00:32:59 -0300
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Future stability of PHP?
From: deleugyn@gmail.com (Deleu)

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On Sat, Apr 8, 2023, 6:04 PM Ilija Tovilo <tovilo.ilija@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Sadly, there's a conflict of interest here. There are people who want
> to keep running their existing websites without having to make any
> changes, and there are people who are using PHP daily and would like
> to see the language evolve. We would like to satisfy both of these
> groups but that is difficult when they are often directly opposed. I
> do think that if we only manage to satisfy the former, PHP will
> gradually become less and less significant. That would be sad.
>
> Ilija


That makes total sense to me. On the other hand, throwing the existing
community out and chasing after a new community puts PHP at a very delicate
spot. There's a large world out there that thinks PHP is still PHP 4. Of
the large group of PHP adopters that stayed with the language for the last
decade, a large set seem to have their interests neglected and are being
forced into greenfield/rewrite. If you've bet money on PHP 15 years ago and
you're now being forced by the language to stay behind or rewrite, what are
the odds that PHP will keep being the betting choice?

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