Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:119799 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 78368 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2023 16:59:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 30 Mar 2023 16:59:39 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F8A180543 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:59:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS24940 176.9.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from chrono.xqk7.com (chrono.xqk7.com [176.9.45.72]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:59:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bastelstu.be; s=mail20171119; t=1680195576; bh=Gn9OBcL7HVFS9mI7K7mN8zSFB1HEnbaBwg6EnNFQPH8=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:from:to:cc:subject:message-id; b=Mr8Ju11xx6gJaDKYexYRFKQxd7JZ+MgL1VjPuFXnXupiBGe5DiznCw+v3KenC1ocO j6rl2+zHSEI+phMbeXIhph6GFkkHtZxGAr8N5nMD5/Ykufk+7MSRV24hd/oMe6fp97 EfhJOvhBOxWnEgfB5JltMbu9uTeNRYH1hXL+Cw3y472TJwDnLQJMuZUr9fCqwSlzpF OKlBZprRtw5qoqX93Vob8EyJSkdc8vVNCOR05STjBCzDcQxEh3V7t9FA5anBhNzIc1 JIB5ikGhuWwLMnlXcsWrQyV0Ko4cP5nY3FeR+iihoQkmdSLaXf1CaZgUIiGkuyhmi9 AIVAQFQ0FiZ4g== Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 18:59:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-US To: internals@lists.php.net References: <0D24BC4B-0A78-40A9-BF6B-627D4C7AD303@cschneid.com> <9b44fa16-5bac-4dbe-872f-d64a0b652e52@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Mailing List Preferences (was: Broken Wiki Registraiton) From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=c3=bcsterhus?=) Hi On 3/30/23 18:18, Rowan Tommins wrote: > So on GMail and other clients using subject-based "conversation" grouping, > this is now a third thread; on clients using header-based "thread" > grouping, it is still in the original. > It's fine. At least that ensure that this off-topic discussion doesn't pollute the view for clients that do not use a threaded view (looking at you, Gmail). >> I actually enjoy getting the second copy, because I can independently >> file emails that specifically target me into a separate folder. >> > > This feels like something the mail client should be handling, not the > sender - watch/star thread, ignore/mute thread, filter by threads you've > participated in, etc The mail client can't detect whether I'm the intended "direct" recipient of a single email within a large thread. Especially not if I didn't previously participate in it, but someone wants my opinion or expertise. As Derick said: Deduplicating the email in your MUA is easy (the Message-ID is identical), but getting the second copy without the List-ID header is not easy. Best regards Tim Düsterhus