Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:119795 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71615 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2023 16:18:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 30 Mar 2023 16:18:31 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54B618037E for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:18:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wr1-f43.google.com (mail-wr1-f43.google.com [209.85.221.43]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-f43.google.com with SMTP id l27so19674632wrb.2 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:18:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1680193108; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=oA+15KPjKincGBAX1dOTi/qeMuCbTz1xZ+eaaoIBNVE=; b=VLBtw4qG6Ze8lmYsbiiASjP5szPXFIAUDMCbqBunIoM33ZdssdMH6PjyUdPdsaIkHh EKEdPKcwE6EOSPW3l8LfodwzQQswCB7e66vyTq4v4t08o0awry//7E7r7yaHX+z9uM4J fg6teWN9oMCqpQ991lmHnbX2Ukqto9upDM7z8Qx/yawNPogmJcu35hLCIKBxxxhrWeh4 VrV5bfrvAGulkwDYuLBu3tYx4HLtimTiVp9TKvtqAt81GAkd6qvtcmq8vOk6q2lnubtN D/zFhhUJliDALWnkUYb4BO4B+Hbj2UA/ghL6oHd2zNWb7dLa0CW0AgZndm2wNWQuplcv dYHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1680193108; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=oA+15KPjKincGBAX1dOTi/qeMuCbTz1xZ+eaaoIBNVE=; b=uYYkqOQCuSGuCYumdG2JLwxZEUswxxMJgH37hbTG6+SYw4PZfvwbYQ4LMIfsGrh95P I/dl+P2Qv1am8nnVJnj4vAfeUGhEEGorjsog6rQx35TZBDBfPWsval8VsVPAKEK6QfBk XJvpLD0B3XRdyG6nPaHoXA+aa1Mfo2JnJzAT76GuA5ZXipPiuk/nY3Ip745Wy5TGZ6dw wFMt8l60GgoUk5DZDVj3pxYK/f+1Wkix8Z7nOo2uvfrjc29SmvPTp6DqsXhvA7d90YX6 o+woTwDkmbxgSR0+Gf0zOTO5A5qAzRyJ08hw0rT6PIl7U47uh/BzvGFCA3Z3dVJ2Pbty aJ6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9dfB/khT5H4xR/vayXHKbm6/I13j6dplUKKJZnQytIneIYVq05y eTDmzeB32g6RqUiUv1H8rDC8f3Vv7OrGXRu0C6OYAkI36go= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350bSV5fin06zAwZVGwP/281pPu83TS+BoUcAGJrwfAM+imYj7A4lA3WsLqfV+kyrGGFbAyxQgcQiyqqM50YULMY= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:595b:0:b0:2e5:18d6:8648 with SMTP id e27-20020a5d595b000000b002e518d68648mr379653wri.6.1680193107618; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:18:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0D24BC4B-0A78-40A9-BF6B-627D4C7AD303@cschneid.com> <9b44fa16-5bac-4dbe-872f-d64a0b652e52@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 17:18:15 +0100 Message-ID: To: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000055705205f82071f1" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Mailing List Preferences (was: Broken Wiki Registraiton) From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins) --00000000000055705205f82071f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 15:08, Tim D=C3=BCsterhus wrote: > Hi > > This subthread really goes off-topic (I've renamed the Subject once more > :-) ). > So on GMail and other clients using subject-based "conversation" grouping, this is now a third thread; on clients using header-based "thread" grouping, it is still in the original. > I actually enjoy getting the second copy, because I can independently > file emails that specifically target me into a separate folder. > This feels like something the mail client should be handling, not the sender - watch/star thread, ignore/mute thread, filter by threads you've participated in, etc You certainly won't get such copies from me, except by mistake - Thunderbird has "Reply to list", and in GMail web and K-9 Mail I mimic it by hitting "Reply all" then trimming to just the list address. That's both the biggest strength and the biggest weakness of e-mail - different clients can give users different views and workflows of exactly the same content. On the one hand, that means you can find one that works how you like (e.g. I straight-up hate GMail's web UI for long threads). But on the other hand, you can't predict how your messages will interact with someone else's UI and workflow. Regards, --=20 Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] --00000000000055705205f82071f1--