Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:119626 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48549 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2023 00:41:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2023 00:41:02 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCE7180505 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:41:01 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15623 212.45.192.0/19 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail.gna.ch (mail.gna.ch [212.45.196.109]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkcity.gna.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FD53A1D95 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2023 01:40:59 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Received: from mail.gna.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (darkcity.gna.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7_qZhzURNetr for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2023 01:40:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [IPv6:2a02:1210:2ea4:cf00:a106:316a:edf2:6be0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by darkcity.gna.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A5CDA3A0BE1 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2023 01:40:58 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.400.51.1.1\)) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 01:40:58 +0100 References: To: PHP Internals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7B1B1555-C55C-49AA-A612-E72A3AD5D6AC@cschneid.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.400.51.1.1) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP code refactoring (was: include cleanup) From: cschneid@cschneid.com (Christian Schneider) Am 01.03.2023 um 01:13 schrieb Bob Weinand : > In this case, while the primary concern of the RFC was rejected, I = think it's pretty clear, that there was a supermajority for something = specific. I didn't vote on this RFC but I have to disagree with you and Max here: = My understanding of such a voting process is that the secondary votes = are dependent on the acceptance of the first one. This means I would interpret it as 'if and only if "Should #include = directives be cleaned up?" Is accepted then I'm voting yes for "Is it = allowed to split a large header to reduce dependencies"'. I can't know whether the people voting here meant it that way or not, = I'm just saying that taking the second vote out of context seems = problematic to me. Reminds me a bit of looking at the numbers of an A/B = test when the precondition "is the result significant" is false. Regards, - Chris