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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 21:22:45 +0200
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To: Clint Priest <php-internals@rxv.me>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] include cleanup
From: autaut03@gmail.com (Alex Wells)

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On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:09 PM Clint Priest <php-internals@rxv.me> wrote:

>
> On 2/13/2023 4:13 AM, Arvids Godjuks wrote:
> > Good day dear Internals!
> >
> > I've been following this thread/RFC from its inception to the current
> > moment. I have watched the situation deteriorate and at this point, I
> have
> > major concerns about the events that transpired, the motivations of some
> > decisions and the apparent major lack of communication.
> > But the worst thing, in my opinion, is that the mistakes that were made
> > about a decade ago are happening in this thread: Cubstomping and
> > alienating
> > new contributors who are willing to take on major amounts of work and are
> > willing to take on the long-term maintenance.
> This happened to me years ago and while I'm still here and reading the
> threads, I backed off from contributing any further.  Many weeks of
> getting up early to work on the code for an hour before I had to head to
> work thrown away without even any better reason than "long-term
> maintenance" without me sticking around to do so.
>
> Just turned me off from the whole situation.


Agreed. There are clearly major issues with communication.

If Dmitry was against merging into 8.x and instead wanted to postpone it to
9.x, he should have said so on the merge request. The PR should not have
been reverted simply on the basis of not being able to review the PR in
time. It's your responsibility (even on a project like PHP) to review the
PRs; if you don't want them to be merged without your approval then there
are merge rules on GitHub just for that.

The amount of roadblocks and the resistance for contributions is what
throws off the little number of new people wanting to contribute :/

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