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Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 17:59:55 -0300
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Official Preprocessor
From: deleugyn@gmail.com (Deleu)

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On Thu, Feb 2, 2023, 11:22 AM someniatko <someniatko@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd like to also emphasize that the concept of compilation and static
> type-checking / analysis is not foreign to the PHP community. Major
> frameworks like Symfony already have a concept of compiling e.g. a DI
> container, and static analyzers like Psalm, PHPStan and others are
> actively used.
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I think the idea overall is pretty solid and could get a few community
supporters.  But the devil is in the details.

1. Making it official is a trade-off. It's the highest chance of widespread
adoption and the heaviest burden on PHP Internals.

2. Who's going to fund it, develop it, maintain it? It's a significant
project and a heavy burden.

3. What's the MVP? How do we measure usefulness, adoption and maintenance
complexity?

4. Is it an aborttable idea? If things go south and can't be supported
anymore, how bad for PHP adopters would it be?

5. How would voting on the spec be like? Complete years-work-hours spec or
small incremental functionalities?

6. Is versioning tightly coupled with PHP version or does it have its own
version support system targeting multiple php versions at the same time?

Overall, I think PHP has been constantly losing popularity in favor of
Typescript and a transpiler could create an exciting solution for some of
PHP's problems, but it does not seem like a pet project.

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