Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:119302 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 35497 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2023 11:51:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2023 11:51:41 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E24B1804D4 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2023 03:51:41 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-pj1-f47.google.com (mail-pj1-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2023 03:51:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pj1-f47.google.com with SMTP id z9-20020a17090a468900b00226b6e7aeeaso1900433pjf.1 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2023 03:51:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=vX3sRqtJK51PtGA441sC/qe0CvdOy8qMJP72pCI9SoE=; b=hKNjvVgNkQ99wUr5GrozaLG7a1QWY00/V1bZ6MNzVP13vXhAwiQnQ/qZLF3EwxIMhx NPxQ0+VVArSdRWZQDYc36wi4JnlzYduzRUBnX2sJcYgLyIxEqmex/nCIT+YIc4uw5G+e HFAa5/sy39x1Focp4jplEAT8LjiBHPC3OLohZ/jM+OStT4UalBM9EShJIR/CwrVo9CnN 3inzBNrPmS2gKRU8vOG32cgr9N0xSw0jooB0oFlYdvFNiIS2ThiCElWxIf2loV0EGbGL m8vGG6qjji/NryLf7zuvw98oHMmCP+gWflIQRd8xWFzl8uvxRxZxWjmoGl8DQ9TEGswl jKzg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=vX3sRqtJK51PtGA441sC/qe0CvdOy8qMJP72pCI9SoE=; b=3aAv+vieUoBjAII9hSpongCic5f1BUNy8KZYZuYgrlBbY97i4KYacjqH1dzxuA1gi/ nzmQHUV6UL0afkKLw5Vz41K5oWYcAyn9G0ZAXfcGjUp1Cf9L2oLuOLAyrTjbPxsZ6c2p d3CDy6CQPgwIQeKgPoQh9rninkHfl3vww+YKqCPPuSAMPfPMBdaYChwUNKL0K4jwXH9i c+sh6C/PeIOh3YwanSayv/TAW5aZP8bAqRpYeCymerBu3iwFvbI3eEDPbCP81FfMPdZF Pt8NQzO+sIc//IfL4yEHgYlhxr7o+wSN8z47p1LfQhTmeHtmnZVYw1iFcC4NDsXUMDbO Kqaw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kqaIh3bGlZzCgxJ+9slKiuYbzo2GdfMDSB7CKi+P5fZhSq5/Igk SC7dd8bg7ZspFMrexOLwqDOrN8h2M69TqF3xRhVhOxO91xY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXv2f5jvFdrWL52u380OvK1PZrSNSHUMcZexD4GSqsLBWkn/bygDwPmcOP2UgdGa5aJ8Y6mkXDBTQ7AWyAt8DcE= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:6342:b0:229:4c59:3eeb with SMTP id v2-20020a17090a634200b002294c593eebmr441187pjs.51.1674042699643; Wed, 18 Jan 2023 03:51:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2023 11:51:28 +0000 Message-ID: To: Max Kellermann Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000073821905f288704d" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: rules for #include directives From: george.banyard@gmail.com ("G. P. B.") --00000000000073821905f288704d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 09:01, Max Kellermann wrote: > On 2023/01/16 13:48, "G. P. B." wrote: > > Moreover, having those sorts of changes be RFCs seems counterproductive > as > > the only people who care about this are actual core and extensions > > developers and this opens the gate for petty RFCs to resolve coding style > > disagreements. > > How shall we proceed from here? Shall I create an official RFC or > not? > > George said no, which I understand; but I don't know what else to do > to produce a decision. > > I asked Dmitry to post his GitHub arguments in this thread, so you see > both sides of the story, and you can discuss his arguments. (I > already replied to him on GitHub, see > https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/10345) > I still don't think the RFC process is a good vehicle for those sorts of decisions, but it's the only process we have and there is some clear disagreement that needs to get resolved here. So I think creating an official RFC is the only way. Best regards, George P. Banyard --00000000000073821905f288704d--