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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: BN7PR05MB4033.namprd05.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-RMS-PersistedConsumerOrg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 97d091dd-bcde-4240-7fd3-08dadfad4870 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 16 Dec 2022 21:34:16.3390 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-rms-persistedconsumerorg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BYAPR05MB4040 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [Vote] More Appropriate Date/Time Exceptions From: theodorejb@outlook.com (Theodore Brown) On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 8:27 AM Derick Rethans wrote:=0A= =0A= > Hi,=0A= > =0A= > I've just opened the vote for "More Appropriate Date/Time Exceptions".=0A= > It runs until December 31st, 24:00 UTC.=0A= > =0A= > You can vote at:=0A= > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/datetime-exceptions#voting=0A= =0A= Hi Derick,=0A= =0A= Thank you for your work on this. I like the idea of having more specific=0A= exceptions to avoid having to parse generic exception/warning strings.=0A= =0A= However, I voted No because there doesn't seem to be an implementation=0A= currently, and I'm concerned about introducing differences in error=0A= handling between the procedural and object-oriented date functions.=0A= =0A= Is there a rational for why the procedural date functions should continue= =0A= producing generic warnings/exceptions, rather than consistently using the= =0A= same exception hierarchy as the OO interface? I fear this could make it=0A= harder for users to switch between the procedural and OO APIs, as some=0A= errors might have to be handled in a different way.=0A= =0A= Also, could maintaining parity between the procedural/OO APIs be more=0A= difficult if they each implement error handling differently?=0A= Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I thought that currently the procedural date=0A= functions are simple aliases of the corresponding object method.=0A= =0A= Best regards,=0A= Theodore=