Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:119140 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 23983 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2022 22:51:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2022 22:51:49 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7FF1804FF for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 14:51:48 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_NEUTRAL,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS30827 82.113.144.0/20 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from xdebug.org (xdebug.org [82.113.146.227]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 14:51:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [85.255.232.166]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A84D510C055; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 22:51:46 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 22:51:44 +0000 To: internals@lists.php.net, Thomas Hruska , PHP Development User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <64f90d2c-a939-2a21-acae-f7115ed991b2@cubiclesoft.com> References: <5fe0d8a9-d305-9c9d-ca36-1ca30de87b78@cubiclesoft.com> <64f90d2c-a939-2a21-acae-f7115ed991b2@cubiclesoft.com> Message-ID: <740D7226-0EED-4B13-9CFA-E56601079AFC@php.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: =?US-ASCII?Q?Re=3A_=5BPHP-DEV=5D_Revisiting_RFC=3A_Engin?= =?US-ASCII?Q?e_Warnings_--_Undefined_array_index?= From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On 13 December 2022 15:55:41 GMT, Thomas Hruska = wrote: >On 12/13/2022 7:15 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2022, Thomas Hruska wrote: >>=20 >>> On 12/12/2022 3:52 PM, Derick Rethans wrote: >>>> On 12 December 2022 22:20:27 GMT, Dan Liebner = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> It has been proposed to make the error level of "Undefined index" >>>>> configurable so that teams and individual developers can decide >>>>> for themselves how they want this situation to be handled=2E Given >>>>> that: >>>>>=20 >>>>> - PHP has been treating this as an E_NOTICE for over 20 years >>>>=20 >>>> But not in the last three years=2E >>>=20 >> >>=20 >>> The type of post that the OP sent to internals is likely to become >>> more common in the next few months as PHP 8=2Ex starts rolling out >>> globally=2E >>=20 >> PHP 8 has been rolling out for two years "globally" already=2E > >Not for those of us that run the package managed version of PHP in Ubuntu= Server LTS it hasn't=2E That's your and their choice, and not a problem that we here should care a= bout=2E I certainly don't=2E=20 There are also well established third party repositories (sury and remi) t= o cater for this use case as well=2E From=20the PHP project's point of view, PHP 8 has been out for more than two= years=2E=20 cheers=20 Derick=20