Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:118771 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 59138 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2022 20:12:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2022 20:12:09 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2806C1804FF for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2022 13:12:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wr1-f50.google.com (mail-wr1-f50.google.com [209.85.221.50]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2022 13:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-f50.google.com with SMTP id f11so4333506wrm.6 for ; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 13:12:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=7Yzu0U9JqVK+OYhF2xq9eKBVm4Y9KlM26L7UEesWXP0=; b=IYeiZzWQYYtrRHrGyL4iwj1uRPzzvLN8yzhqg7d+xZ+buLmzblT0dV6BCDJVCmTWct 16yF4Qm/e7NNw502PAAKaGluHwoXc2x0rn7SLqgDZRguQihZLfFNCayxhfg5qdOUGrJw tFe96bXSQwGYNxefK9zEXlu5Rqe3IvRjiYgS5IJWDy5QoKBKd9qerZ8gA2vd6xUIZwFr XZdfkC0NgR3gn9ztxOS4OHYqgwWhNmJNmfSp41qSW5zm5WgOVvWzO6ojsB1zpUVIzRO4 YZN1kPK+UvwNofUVmEv1/7wFO0pCsmdHf4dWBkZtFE5E8168T51XWHbuBvZx9HUgqRy8 iHRQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=7Yzu0U9JqVK+OYhF2xq9eKBVm4Y9KlM26L7UEesWXP0=; b=KC2Xs16R7nAEtyI/C3/uS133YPcN1BLxDgkB+riGWcnLA+Osx18tkAxKUaaYiKera4 LSsaYjoO35juLFyDAX5hT8DehKmxPV3Q7xzZq+65pCOijHXrb1j1AgBAvEC+e3JWzSdJ 1jg2qn1IzycrCJ5c0tj8oB9m5ii3zXAu0NqSaAL4p26deQnQ20MxPoDyxsTGUZQTU6LE VbyPE8oUFbloyarzyB/PMjKOZ4PHoNrNfJOD99F1lwhBigvCDwKJXu9fiD8zPIlxriBJ za8IfJ++f/2rhlwVca53DZdjgorILvRCVjpcv3APsOk7dqMKYfG8ePt//UrCp1kfCC/+ IQiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf1rteAfVZFfQplWHTXmeL+0t6iNL6sA4bzPSvot8Mb7rZ2Qqoqk CuIaoH24SqEISwa8c/HuM0IodaAF0pQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM6puigEuMskTOlZLgBDGaK5HbSLWiCJg4eINA6p3KEHbFsSFftYYGOVpVCSLMDPtZ6rquZPqA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:1565:b0:22b:3057:ba63 with SMTP id 5-20020a056000156500b0022b3057ba63mr1087265wrz.259.1665087127638; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 13:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.22] (cpc104104-brig22-2-0-cust548.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [82.10.58.37]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id z2-20020a5d44c2000000b0022e55f40bc7sm209154wrr.82.2022.10.06.13.12.06 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Oct 2022 13:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 21:12:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.3.1 Content-Language: en-GB To: PHP Internals References: <1aa20877-3365-0ace-25d2-1cb1be8f3bcc@gmail.com> <55686BD4-4C67-4A4F-8BE4-BDF0149296FB@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55686BD4-4C67-4A4F-8BE4-BDF0149296FB@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Experimental features From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins) On 06/10/2022 17:41, Alex Wells wrote: > For example, Kotlin has recently introduced a new feature - unsigned integer types. I'm still struggling to understand what I, as a user, would do about this. If I start coding an application that relies on these new types, is there a chance that they'll be removed completely, and I have to rewrite it all? Is there a chance that every minor version I upgrade might introduce subtle changes in the behaviour of my code? Or is there just a chance that someone will decide the bikeshed's the wrong colour and I have to regex replace all my "123u" to say "u123" instead? Regards, -- Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]