Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:118750 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31703 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2022 11:16:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 5 Oct 2022 11:16:25 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF8D1804F7 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2022 04:16:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-oa1-f46.google.com (mail-oa1-f46.google.com [209.85.160.46]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2022 04:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oa1-f46.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-131dda37dddso18528351fac.0 for ; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 04:16:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=3tkpN1/nJOjk68grp+oRlHS1tCM5ipObvA9c9470+9s=; b=YDiG9u1fBY0/hF4w24A7XDSwieIPhOj2NDzzRBIOZ25d68OeBw0Nb46NnBJia9+hCv x+0lDapdgPXtmb7w2RUeZwAVPbEF0xeko2tLz+tHFwVKgiR9fO0tNwbfx8PpAYCPbvAY tw8W4IbXfjg5fskvmSInUATeE4wN658YpAVfE3pmhhAaZclg+h8HzZp9yWCnFdlij8bY joUTAx288WjPR8UCA572NcrQ0vf4nH1G++nLUqj6XJFhMwUeHpP7hydFou0onrcZoms3 Ibhm+YqThiUeDdk68TZtSLUUh/rB1Jg6W90tHm8z8j5Ck49/Of3Hlj0gLEXxnQBEEVcU SrVw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=3tkpN1/nJOjk68grp+oRlHS1tCM5ipObvA9c9470+9s=; b=H+21+EiQGEFs/kb5qI7ucj39Nz08SAJsnAa7LsIaxMnFOA83pyY22qYh8SZr30/H+L lroQ2qwLqtSDeick5Bb9xNy7xe2Xp63XSZG/Of3aCW9M9daQOYjXZSIErzRPzsoi9C3/ 5ODoz7Tx6BhShzfExOmmrmuENrjaCoUudOuZUB9+YbiEAKSm2fJw3WZVZKWrkFP9IrMu +0l5BJMQz2V7DQZxPZiZnCaHeqxjk+VozEf6Rsep6/6w6+5jd2P47XR5ctlIB+eqrjKB YGe5SMWsnxuGWJOSZ1NLsmLNiZYQlDZ3ntwyV78pa3XsdMLLkKHKxrJmT1phFxsT+R0j abag== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf0RIPvtTH7ay0GOZpfvd35Nh1s0aAndXnQk4SsKylDxUc3JnCrZ s6pKyjUUTV6HaEFZoqfKJhrZEpcdCFYizwPOW2cbcs7b/iU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM4oszdCZ3b2RO2q0UnRAkvsb3XCk2Sc6824d4UVZMYRq4yFYBG7L3E1FygTGT0PHg7dDFJMhmYkwAzaA5ORvCc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:a9a0:b0:12b:45b6:80e1 with SMTP id ep32-20020a056870a9a000b0012b45b680e1mr2305509oab.209.1664968583123; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 04:16:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 08:16:14 -0300 Message-ID: To: juan carlos morales Cc: David Rodrigues , PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f595f105ea47b4e8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Experimental features From: deleugyn@gmail.com (Deleu) --000000000000f595f105ea47b4e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Oct 5, 2022, 7:54 AM juan carlos morales wrote: > > Apply a PECL strategy to try experimental features might not be the > convenient way always, for example, if we create a new ... sensitive > ... ini setting that affects the behavior of PHP somehow, then ... > maybe applying the PECL strategy might not be the most confortable way > to approach it, OR ... what about a new sensitive funtion in a "core > extension" like JSON? > Just to build up on this. I feel like Extensions are maybe a technical / development feature that may have the power to address the issue, but from a "Product" (PHP language as the product) this isn't the best. Anything behind extensions add a significant entry burden and reduce the reach for users of the product, be it for lack of trust, knowledge or lack of infrastructure that allows such changes. > --000000000000f595f105ea47b4e8--