Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:118682 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3596 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2022 16:03:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 21 Sep 2022 16:03:42 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C221E180380 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 09:03:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS24940 176.9.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from chrono.xqk7.com (chrono.xqk7.com [176.9.45.72]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 09:03:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bastelstu.be; s=mail20171119; t=1663776219; bh=eb6wEyQ8AM2vySl31z1W2nTIkYeO+SQ8pdO7nZ4eLgg=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=KkiDnlrHWKQEKNw/j/OfaZ2dISn4u4QXaZ7cxHfGctorIeUQY2j+Y8Y4JRBry8fwD mYWbuJ4AddYiaYZi9vfiZ0jodoO15Taf+/azjC1MYQfB7EkxdaMbwgn+wFueEfkwqD NW/aS02n6mx36v2OXVXfSEwerTPdxPLTyIN+q5Swt2OGfLVpnyAPVYg8QTng5vyvRl aiT2ofK6YX4xi1lr178sAxB5c3yolGCNcA45uGngA+WjgTkelcQe0LLfTAcAXahNgZ Y8FcohZBo4WY7LD0+D+jtP5OEdAFYefce8a/yf+2+sxofCTFbzFrEmfdeFG6ujrV/a y68K2LvrrryCQ== Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 18:03:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-US To: Nicolas Grekas , Marco Pivetta Cc: =?UTF-8?B?TcOhdMOpIEtvY3Npcw==?= , Larry Garfield , php internals References: <7930779c-1782-4ecd-8e3d-42ba9e199bdc@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Issues with readonly classes From: tim@bastelstu.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Tim_D=c3=bcsterhus?=) Hi On 9/21/22 11:48, Nicolas Grekas wrote: >>> What's your take about 8.2? As I demonstrated, readonly classes are broken >>> because of this propagation to child classes. >>> >> >> s/broken/working as expected >> > > broken. see thread > Working as expected (or: working as designed). The behavior with regard to inheritance was an explicit section (with its own headline) in the RFC and thus was voted and agreed-on. Changing that would be a non-trivial change from the agreed-on behavior and thus warrants another vote at the very least. The same is true for reverting the readonly class feature entirely, especially since PHP 8.2 is in the RC phase where it's not entirely unreasonable for users to start building on the anticipated features. FWIW personally I would've preferred avoiding this problem by disallowing readonly classes to appear within inheritance hierarchies entirely. Best regards Tim Düsterhus