Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:118679 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 78846 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2022 09:32:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 21 Sep 2022 09:32:43 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED78180544 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 02:32:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,FREEMAIL_REPLY, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-ej1-f43.google.com (mail-ej1-f43.google.com [209.85.218.43]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 02:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-f43.google.com with SMTP id bj12so12155815ejb.13 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 02:32:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=hPJU/W4mB2f6oV2qK2R7aV84FdbcXbmIkaZx0vgD4bs=; b=Eu4ptUrUIfFTtE1eLuk1TS6uf6GoVrJD902tZqwaCOWBBmcdrTF5rEVGLzChFI15zU oaCPZgWZv5sEJXj28ksTVtAoMnwYJnI+ImKh8bKGitza5iKm2+M6iRWKJPqvSDvl5Jhy 3tQIsE9jbaIN5puNzp9LXEJx66/j1zPBsnbBLeI1Sx1Ed/iDMXZB0wct0KxNjNxmrywk N7u7Q3QQ8mdFrOPPE9272gcw7t3LZmQ6OPg2h5jnJ7LWRl5V5BCIICJeFc2uKokg1Dw5 dARRJtROlbnjgb64slXlNgLIYuF5LXcXQkdrb/u4ORt+HfAhMIwegXAmwom6LxPZ+INx lPcA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=hPJU/W4mB2f6oV2qK2R7aV84FdbcXbmIkaZx0vgD4bs=; b=GxGy5tQP/raAp5+FxrVdrsucJt5llkHM5QHeRsohNdC7gZujIK3eJH5Oub2FpLeDvu h85y4UGavlEF9vav7xCNg4UOLrpko1XrF9zkr/IWXpBraeVUUxK5QC1vzCxUEKHBnkJa W/PzxOP4hwU5kl/06cgRkOilWr720eSUHpMHJABIOwUiaOxzEXjv957WI0ilTG96FH5d POoyH6+TW1YowPC7tTrIki5WSw93saBL7F7cFffeD1YOWsr628Y0Htt/XqT2dgQgEQkc hTBElKurdz122rSAN7ikFQ3mSaC29bTzTjqzqAfukv6N5gFDH88yTwA/FTycHEYOBymf oRYg== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf1YdqdbsDuivGSrMY546S7aLfQBRBSPUFVcJq7sckucDh5cXgHA uI31Fd7t40dIkRdQScQuFsl6m4E6Vt9V+fC+DMPP1OkXSxE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM6xXrwf56VutFEhgK/b66mCUqfojRpxMOcHqR8EHMcJ8/xtjlC+/HLGNPN4eL5fr4T9ybGMYle/wTqeL/qtXXU= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:6a0b:b0:77d:2f20:69db with SMTP id qw11-20020a1709066a0b00b0077d2f2069dbmr18928852ejc.572.1663752761063; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 02:32:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7930779c-1782-4ecd-8e3d-42ba9e199bdc@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 11:32:29 +0200 Message-ID: To: Nicolas Grekas Cc: =?UTF-8?B?TcOhdMOpIEtvY3Npcw==?= , Larry Garfield , php internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000513d4f05e92ca008" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Issues with readonly classes From: ocramius@gmail.com (Marco Pivetta) --000000000000513d4f05e92ca008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, 21 Sept 2022 at 11:30, Nicolas Grekas wrote: > Hi all, > > > > When I was working on the readonly class RFC, I realized that the > readonly > > keyword very naturally fits services besides value objects. So my > > expectation has been that until we can fix the issue with cloning, people > > would mainly apply readonly to services. Not that it is very useful, but > I > > would also feel some kind of weird fulfillment by doing so. > > > > Regarding cloning: I created a WIP PR not long ago to fix the > > aforementioned cloning issue, and I'll pursue a readonly amendment RFC in > > the coming weeks (or month) containing the long awaited improvements for > > cloning (hopefully together with the "clone with" construct) and possibly > > with this inheritance-related change Nicolas proposed, unless someone can > > come up with an ultimate counter-argument. > > > > What's your take about 8.2? As I demonstrated, readonly classes are broken > because of this propagation to child classes. > s/broken/working as expected Marco Pivetta https://twitter.com/Ocramius https://ocramius.github.io/ --000000000000513d4f05e92ca008--