Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:118560 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 63481 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2022 12:06:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 4 Sep 2022 12:06:25 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5467D180339 for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2022 05:06:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_NEUTRAL,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS30827 82.113.144.0/20 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from xdebug.org (xdebug.org [82.113.146.227]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2022 05:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [148.252.129.221]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B63F10C030; Sun, 4 Sep 2022 13:06:22 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2022 13:06:19 +0100 To: internals@lists.php.net, Nicolas Grekas , Marco Pivetta CC: PHP Internals List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1t=E9_Kocsis?= User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74826B75-7648-432B-9E04-D9A44252C0C4@php.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Issues with readonly classes From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On 4 September 2022 11:46:18 BST, Nicolas Grekas wrote: >Hi Marco, > >IMO good as-is: can be relaxed later (8=2E3 or later), if anybody believe= s >> it's a show-stopper=2E >> >Readonly classes don't really need to be lazy=2E >> > >"Break things and move slow" doesn't feel right to me for the language=2E It's a new keyword that you have to opt into=2E So it's not breaking anyth= ing=2E It just means you might not be able to use it for your use case yet= =2E=20 (and before you say that third party code might add it, you can just say y= ou don't support it yet)=2E cheers Derick=20