Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:118462 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24800 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2022 11:12:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 2022 11:12:27 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFC71804AB for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 06:17:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-yw1-f170.google.com (mail-yw1-f170.google.com [209.85.128.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 06:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-f170.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-33387bf0c4aso458659477b3.11 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 06:17:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc; bh=L6GNHe2mBfQYoXYSu2Ql/SRM0u+exxrwXfBB/8XZX9I=; b=A1qXP5DilYIOMOAMvbyF4DDG3oVgVWxvgLMkgI1EfTdBa93zjjz/ACsdK8oX/A5ksJ bXDHfOO2aFPJPHaVEuKE4SniwsIy7NjDzbdTdjD6h1izJHOwx2rt2zsFMxf7vMG+qL/A woR607oy4Z9KQPzM6d4r8Mk27c7wFpwaCDb5om1V+eAwk6d7V6J+MdUyF3XM9WYZUaRc xQ7gjtoesr+W1D/BJrEOJzRJ43WXscWNdlrFHcZvAkjvRNhYRthC2dSRlujwSmU1EcGB mjj3Vc9+SpZLPlKnjC6CtR1tBxkjYTRdsYYqguxekCKp8i9wROKsTwn8r/5Bx3vyHREr PHzw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=L6GNHe2mBfQYoXYSu2Ql/SRM0u+exxrwXfBB/8XZX9I=; b=5WvHLwydRELyGr96ALHrEd/8R5vOa8wymZPZsh4ySseXxOUllizLSW0mVSeSMU5VQE iWMb3cUK/al/GajYL5sASoxpM1G7rcn3AjL1l3UobgjsrgW5Uz1fAGZ8RSNKngHaMABs ZzpEeJvalGvZCo3YpMYePT3DGD4Py2GWeEFO8gBlUly4IyybGBS4mDWfUOEpOdBETTxi zJe3cylfacQANNtdOd0ZlrPWV+tZTl2QpsgVEHdL1nxVfzWQEsRzwzbe7wB9DYIiom72 m1bNDgSDvpMLPQCykp7buNVZSn3VZ8yEQ4tdJ2WIBAwd7y1oIRjZEN07lGqerEwF815Q hGRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo1+uBR9brFBIEni+0h/Wnfh6iTt/UgNBiIHqwWa1EYkd0F3OSxH uIAmSKw2rHpuomGInSRLWKn5CtKaMAg8AYNSQ64= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR65ao0kIH9FTABiq5NJv/q75596FBs85oR8vlsD9zHccyPBdH6lfvRTDd/T5qtThjH6HFWLZEfzGw7iwUq3R/o= X-Received: by 2002:a81:f46:0:b0:337:24be:33d1 with SMTP id 67-20020a810f46000000b0033724be33d1mr29723679ywp.441.1661347063189; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 06:17:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 15:17:31 +0200 Message-ID: To: Marco Pivetta Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Nullsafe array access can still emit a warning From: gertp93@gmail.com (Gert de Pagter) `$undefined?->bar()` does feel wrong, but `$arr[0]?->bar()` does not to me. But maybe i've just been using javascript too much lately On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 15:11, Marco Pivetta wrote: > > Hey Gert, > > On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 14:59, Gert de Pagter wrote: >> >> Hi Internals, >> >> I recently learned that using null safe on an array access can still >> emit a warning when the array access is not defined. I kinda expected >> it to work like a null coalesce and just short circuit there,without >> the warning. >> >> Is there any chance this behaviour could be changed in a n upcoming >> PHP version? I didn't see anything mentioned specifically about this >> in the RFC. >> >> https://3v4l.org/1raa8 >> >> Greetings, >> Gert de Pagter/ BackEndTea > > > This seems expected behavior to me: it's "nullsafe", not "undefinedsafe". > > If it operated like `??`, then `$undefined?->bar()` would be valid too, which seems wrong, IMO. > > Marco Pivetta > > https://twitter.com/Ocramius > > https://ocramius.github.io/ >