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Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2022 09:17:23 -0500
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] Constants in traits
From: larry@garfieldtech.com ("Larry Garfield")

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022, at 4:45 AM, Marco Pivetta wrote:
> Hey Shinji,
>
> On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 at 23:39, shinji igarashi <sji@sj-i.dev> wrote:
>
>> Hello internals,
>>
>> I've started the vote for the Constants in Traits RFC:
>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/constants_in_traits
>>
>> The vote will end on 19. July 2022.
>>
>
> I voted "NO" on this.
>
> Reasoning:
>
>  * traits are pretty much unnecessary in the language. Since their
> introduction in PHP 5.4 their usage went from "let's try this out" to "how
> do I burn this with fire?". I don't want traits to expand in scope: they
> already do enough damage with their built-in accidental complexity.

Point of order: This is a subjective position not universally held.  Traits are certainly misusable, but so is literally everything.  If used judiciously, I have found them useful.  Certainly they are better than abstract classes in many cases.

You may not like them, but that doesn't make them intrinsically harmful to the language by their existence.  They are not.

--Larry Garfield