Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:117705 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 34595 invoked from network); 9 May 2022 11:31:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 9 May 2022 11:31:27 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7FA180382 for ; Mon, 9 May 2022 06:09:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wm1-f41.google.com (mail-wm1-f41.google.com [209.85.128.41]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 9 May 2022 06:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm1-f41.google.com with SMTP id m62so8344497wme.5 for ; Mon, 09 May 2022 06:09:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject:content-language:to :references:from:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0r0BThrOCdY4N/7fN+5lJ/6/YiBgXF2mzezKJqRrfAo=; b=gCAkEGgx27wzw6wUrR5UqlzdkE/ehU7MnXGOe8euMngoVHgz9kendSwnt7aR+h2fzs HN0D/KVJ8gYrAI4ykxHiM44C5E2WyMwEeVvQVkZawql1/CllWkML+uP7cq45t7/lTSxs YinkvZesQ12at8Ti50qtM9POKNgcNaoCzpFdM6zT8MYPbypsJFAvcym+aDJ6NfuLGEB+ HGsNjW3mrr0PKh9ySwEqaFevbcUufYYNM3Dl5QckKYk0uShV6mx+eX9PyaVZObM4oCV3 DknCQD1GndoSKvZmOi3k/XsNfD3sdlC4wWzWF+RNzmYeF7Vap337zq6RwNq789f1hQyD 9fLA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject :content-language:to:references:from:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0r0BThrOCdY4N/7fN+5lJ/6/YiBgXF2mzezKJqRrfAo=; b=slp64yKESfdLaX+3mMTOx1BCurCF6UKMvnw1euSPL31TAHJQI8g+n8cuXYsiWPWY1u QPO+HNXGLnw155DgnMBYCijUt5XTI/0r/cvTpjYv9bkzgmzb1K1Pjzxi+t3ASywM0YMT TR1/pMiEhroLN13GixM+HPB4evLSue8NNohjMwwlodbEfFHRw/sjdtaXub9cKcTrAAX3 Ugfh680iT0FuKd82oHVFw2JphVlnnD0D4rWoEik/pwJsfDkjP0YjhDHQURUKBlkfXobx EctVamzVcoGOgCs377OauxU5hyMroFVFXIO0stpdW9HlvLq59/mME8X9BUlaGmX8CwTh 9fxw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532Y0VL7M4ZtCumsaft+Oqmx+0aGvGABy/4R6Grnd1GWN++Cs9+S 3B864KkV7At0gZ373fm579SFJHUUIf0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw9vRDSLESY5nGdpdnYa0tofTqCKpTTr6jWmEnTGUC6Hyzch0G2LogSXt6qbb57rrYI/fy/RQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:2844:b0:393:f6fb:5897 with SMTP id r4-20020a05600c284400b00393f6fb5897mr16360941wmb.66.1652101794927; Mon, 09 May 2022 06:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.22] (cpc104104-brig22-2-0-cust548.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [82.10.58.37]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f10-20020adffcca000000b0020c5253d8f9sm11379746wrs.69.2022.05.09.06.09.53 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 09 May 2022 06:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <0986bbe2-df6f-5f0b-25c5-00dc7198f4b4@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2022 14:09:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.8.1 Content-Language: en-GB To: internals References: <5598bad8-4e1a-7638-d3aa-36b02568d1a8@alec.pl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] NULL Coercion Consistency From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins) On 09/05/2022 10:06, Robert Landers wrote: > If you are writing library code, it is 8.1 compatible to avoid people > opening issues about spamming their logs. Yes, I understand that such complaints are common, but we should be working to provide documentation and tooling to those users, rather than accepting their misinterpretation and repeating it on this list. Otherwise, we might as well just promote all deprecation notices to fatal errors immediately. I will open a new thread about this later. Regards, -- Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]