Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:117604 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92670 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2022 16:55:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2022 16:55:00 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA53180510 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2022 11:30:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wr1-f51.google.com (mail-wr1-f51.google.com [209.85.221.51]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2022 11:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-f51.google.com with SMTP id q23so9229420wra.1 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2022 11:30:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject:content-language:to :references:from:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bSoLsTFgMIG8Br+dkr3S4mmMP/NLB45lm2eNXhJBISM=; b=JjX1fRUlqNliWM0Zqolt3/rqUo9Z0hiahI1AARSovbrqZe3J/oQbNXY/p6io2vYowY Bp7s2Vmy/YMY8Pj/OdLp1gl79ZY9dT5SpS0+mgV4vy6BOos1RPlFV+NhORDmUsc3Saxh QX2aRXLBXrtmNIjZdAKQFIsPAUFypdPwJVw4aJYWuq7jezpLfRheIJTlp5fKGxc/feyE KH9xcsGE8TW+plYg++IMt710Wg2wQp+MH+oN41rmP7D90yP3/qRe/Si9tOVfqKZTCl0d 8jYa654KvRFCPvt2gYd79/YMSy5vol5EAM7AVBgUYnGkVnTTLSsLGR9c7kqtDZB2NI8n oqJw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject :content-language:to:references:from:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bSoLsTFgMIG8Br+dkr3S4mmMP/NLB45lm2eNXhJBISM=; b=RFnjpmBjnTWMEe12ISWuQnps8ZL+X9nFcMYnJrYpJYTDdP1+9+wQkHtF/XKmb8D/cy Iieb8s28zQYfu00uzqAHq0DLZYSEHc5aG9KA+BLgx68zffsjt8chM7HHO0HPOHAaQ0eL JVUPf79Gr+5rzIyihHRh2Y2hL1YEiX0X6ZMoum3uiaQ3wTMlHiK+of4PNhVybWIyQSGC MItQd0CrVz0LfDDEeVXuLq6Q1auJbYXb21Nh0HRh6ZfVAfRFupcvB1AIOldFrjpnTn5Y ks7OIgktjqFTjGtCGh/KgO5RGGZ+zPOzoyXZ4iQAT4cpWNJW1OMiX9mRSBWgiEYqYt3b dJuw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532X80Zx44aCmyyEawkXsM8y4rpsuoATU/U36ISP2QLHTfCpGVXM wSdg3IKDqlJX8V/gNbrvJ4FAZcYmjJw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy+O2CEBYXFpHswCwWnrF42UJv5Irl5C1nO7CM5X2OvtP3CnYvgqJFDkwjqdv3rBDrv29REPg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:1f11:b0:20a:c899:a77a with SMTP id bv17-20020a0560001f1100b0020ac899a77amr13973976wrb.561.1650911401887; Mon, 25 Apr 2022 11:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.22] (cpc104104-brig22-2-0-cust548.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [82.10.58.37]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id k14-20020adfb34e000000b0020ad257aa37sm7248042wrd.102.2022.04.25.11.30.00 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Apr 2022 11:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <41b0754a-809e-c2c7-f7b3-3036da714d76@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 19:30:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.8.0 Content-Language: en-GB To: internals@lists.php.net References: <6261d073.1c69fb81.a42c.d7cfSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <6261d073.1c69fb81.a42c.d7cfSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Undefined Property Error Promotion From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins) On 21/04/2022 22:45, Mark Randall wrote: > Internals, > > I have now opened voting on Undefined Property Error Promotion. > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/undefined_property_error_promotion > In case anyone missed it due to some messed-up mail headers, the thread I intended to be a reply to this is here: https://externals.io/message/117571 My position is that both this and the undefined variable RFC should have been a review of functionality, not a blind copy and paste of Warnings into Errors. Since I don't seem to have persuaded anyone else of this, I will try to raise one or more follow-up RFCs trying to fill in the gaps. Regards, -- Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]