Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:117419 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26806 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2022 17:21:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2022 17:21:04 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94911804C3 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:48:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wr1-f49.google.com (mail-wr1-f49.google.com [209.85.221.49]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-f49.google.com with SMTP id b19so7870399wrh.11 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:48:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject:content-language:to :references:from:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=u+Gk44JzI20wLcOXBS59pEl1nzN4V6KasWfvgFthejw=; b=NASZllohSDk6RbzkYMKjeHsTKOmSoK/AOvwpX4OaP6fPGnpj5yV/Bo+ikElSbvo4Te wHEqKpLcGsIO9uHtvq1/eI+stP+WKPE4tBtWHqZbMOf4t0AzIvWpQkL5e6q4G8YAfgh7 06lD8Vi4g8IKqTzMlLQmDgDgklalev7gN8IVLZ+AKZYshKN2aW08A6/9wtA92BGyIu+k nEGrWpdx50ke2zT0+IIFi/nsUN0ge3/wnq0W2fLD0UCIP3aUkUFND3FGrMe5hpYM+nBf sB2EBCitxrlc/OYXf9cRCWTOWuiW4D6rTwGaEUpSkihjweShSr2qe46gXw9zwjnHIbwa UVzg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:mime-version:user-agent:subject :content-language:to:references:from:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=u+Gk44JzI20wLcOXBS59pEl1nzN4V6KasWfvgFthejw=; b=A6kfyI1XuYtShnuS1Q30ECUaZKHl607HTTXXMm9ZD04DP2RQjAtWAZOoV4NDbAFE8P L2dUEcpa4Y5dx5fqYpQGJe4nnLL3RFQiVDQGMNvzHna25O2x9XhLzNy4nFz6NiFhVQ2M zj/xllohROD7q7qWA7xkulhSaSwfH/EMwklVDumN5OGg70TaVMrMbn8j9puPByYfPEb0 sOwmFALQ16GWNLRRxs4qlLbz9qjlGVu8ZLyn/FFSVXhj4n+LOpE/+oxV1DI9rT/pz1xx Dktb9PRHrhCvq3uTMI5P+an3krRb27Arl+nkrckx4oY6om0q4qwqnP1NmLPNVrrFDfrs Ifzw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5313KUgt72AwR2sFrUnT7biQq6jmSQilbkyf61V1jHjnKP+nEhzm t7yv5LIqcOTkEgi/yreo0HUEFG+rdiw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyVWOOy5amDND3gNdNh3+QrBq2WbxrN6+k4DcX4WnQ1eFOMbBeSd/QGI5y/DRGhjRUzghD93Q== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:18a7:b0:204:1bc0:45a with SMTP id b7-20020a05600018a700b002041bc0045amr5660550wri.119.1648147686040; Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.22] (cpc104104-brig22-2-0-cust548.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [82.10.58.37]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id az26-20020adfe19a000000b00204154a1d1fsm3192127wrb.88.2022.03.24.11.48.05 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <747cdc8a-9721-34e3-5bf4-c17bd32020de@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 18:48:04 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.7.0 Content-Language: en-GB To: PHP Internals References: <22242169-a16d-5261-696c-3cf00b00336a@gmail.com> <0b322a3e-469a-7ed7-16e3-0b76287f4091@gmail.com> <811c1fb8-5f76-1a5e-474c-fe654330adaf@telia.com> In-Reply-To: <811c1fb8-5f76-1a5e-474c-fe654330adaf@telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecate and Remove utf8_encode and utf8_decode From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins) On 24/03/2022 15:51, Björn Larsson wrote: > Well, the usecase I can provide is that we have a site with content > in ISO9959-1 (Latin 1). Thanks for the data point. Out of curiosity, what language is the site in, and where are you based? One of the things missing from Latin-1 is the Euro symbol (because it wasn't invented yet), so I'm guessing your site doesn't need that? > I also find the usage of both functions in one of our most important > Open Source libraries. How important they are there I don't know. Can you point me to the library in question? I'd be interested to see how they're using it. Regards, -- Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]