Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:117351 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10928 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2022 06:27:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2022 06:27:26 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5571804AF for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2022 00:52:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-qt1-f171.google.com (mail-qt1-f171.google.com [209.85.160.171]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2022 00:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qt1-f171.google.com with SMTP id i8so3751723qtx.6 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2022 00:52:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=yBcEwo+oU1fmJg02nhleqbtTNDi8gcxNGKFAPsriSv0=; b=iP3yDFAKDfOQGfKNuza6YYIHalXZ/ODvuGXMFtTxhFCSYIpDIuFYzU0SSdIn3klwJY gGlaNdIAYOEyPLulQxe3GkbptWh/F9QDZ1HKZH9eiHJFf9Su3vVhDpNGxgHfj4LMo1EB bqzribolhQfJfCkxx7j3TzBSCVs9cpXP5BUcXigIWhsk9WgGoF87eHFBt+LKGeRR9H19 1Y6+Zp0VcIfkPBptoG2cuqLqByTir8eS+0Yjk3klq0N2goNWh5sV0XavhyOj0fpLSoLU ERtmPDdCfsUzsHbJnu3MIfa4ZgIIE2IsQQhwUTDsp4hods14VVADTq+dKLrU/lVWCCea gF9Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=yBcEwo+oU1fmJg02nhleqbtTNDi8gcxNGKFAPsriSv0=; b=X4QhF6zDhRhtDsDL99jSKsFhRpQ9gQM+336P3rCMjeXgYnLuDZtUhCGABU02fqAyB7 SKVFF+DZ8iaAPWUqELLgAF6RHQpyB2k4wlekl5G1BuJZx8jnMNhjHtyq/b7mvGm5Td2h kxAxTPhT7qREsI/ZPl7UYABXfEoO1IQ0GyXu8/G2v6ZArS5+mcB0KfZ/2Y4IlOn0yIdf grmi82JAzmA68cqQMnxbSeICAMtan3GN9uDrdZrF1VLF62IFEbeSLkK0hU/1iqyF5G+e z8T8Kqpl6zkoG4Kmi8wDLTYUECj7d/BVmtMPy5TG7wGQ2thXNv9mbfwlNe3AGINmE0l3 ePGw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531ZjF4ByFZUQNC+Asp/kUTVVCeapBG8WhYbAeIfoaUitRfxA1fT TbTSso5qIYA3Jp6uHwukB+dKsnTEdyM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwH/Ysu2/mzxhuCFYguZV2xYSRff57jWFp6H+m/KJ1gvN9v+cEtQqKnUMpPcoEBi0TmaoRroA== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:5c8a:0:b0:2e1:a65f:5122 with SMTP id r10-20020ac85c8a000000b002e1a65f5122mr2683924qta.239.1647503552694; Thu, 17 Mar 2022 00:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yb1-f174.google.com (mail-yb1-f174.google.com. [209.85.219.174]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o14-20020a05622a138e00b002e1e78c899fsm3069237qtk.53.2022.03.17.00.52.31 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Mar 2022 00:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f174.google.com with SMTP id l2so8705819ybe.8 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2022 00:52:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a5b:710:0:b0:633:98f0:47ad with SMTP id g16-20020a5b0710000000b0063398f047admr3664578ybq.201.1647503551689; Thu, 17 Mar 2022 00:52:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4724184.31r3eYUQgx@come-prox15amd> <37421f61-4e2e-53d3-56d0-022a3c21ed2e@gmx.de> <4f8bad56-267a-9279-1e57-66fd10b8874f@gmail.com> <6230f8bf.1c69fb81.b1e54.162dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <34de69fc-3e03-4337-ed3c-76c7330636c9@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <34de69fc-3e03-4337-ed3c-76c7330636c9@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 07:51:56 +0000 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Rowan Tommins Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f7117f05da654f6f" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Undefined Variable Error Promotion From: phpmailinglists@gmail.com (Peter Bowyer) --000000000000f7117f05da654f6f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 at 13:27, Rowan Tommins wrote: > On 15/03/2022 23:02, Patrick ALLAERT wrote: > > This is not far from the reason why I voted "no". > > > > I am not against the fact this warning becomes an error per se. I am just > > not very fan of cherry-picking an individual kind of problem (read: > > notice/warning/error/...) and changing it without a more global frame. > > > I have also voted no for similar reasons: the scope of this RFC appears > to be "all the places that are convenient", rather than "all the places > that are covered by the claimed rationale". > > [snip] > > None of this is even mentioned in the RFC, let alone justified. > I have voted no for the same reasons. Peter --000000000000f7117f05da654f6f--