Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:117268 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 23391 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2022 00:31:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2022 00:31:00 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A16180381 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2022 17:53:06 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-oi1-f172.google.com (mail-oi1-f172.google.com [209.85.167.172]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2022 17:53:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi1-f172.google.com with SMTP id x193so9701763oix.0 for ; Fri, 04 Mar 2022 17:53:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=dItCse7DgIrqc7xlCQgj22VLcaRuN0SHJ9PAuuvzXFw=; b=NwYAksQTheACKSOGJ7Hm5pVtqoiNyNMx0EueZH9So5SUunTRWcd2e0GVbiEHH3WWU/ lVXBtr5MIWHzOvbeUVhYQlAxVN7Nwr6Su6PknO89bqPwikbdMVtktVJFGUVQpFLJk44E sSxXzOPOk9ZqsXI5nRnesMQe5JjLW04OGKK/m5fVOFEdSdz/OL7HxlAmQk3uFekF8CE9 ZGGAbDC3kYpVy3sosKC7tzmVXR3TJ7ij4fK31R+WZk9L4+crWymJLq11xsK7U97D0mYe Bc5INQUYOEJSqr4KUGV31DvABbmPbVozPDVHaT9fE/31bIUqDWXP5ajUleRQZZi0N9Pm S+cQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=dItCse7DgIrqc7xlCQgj22VLcaRuN0SHJ9PAuuvzXFw=; b=qnYWQ4ZBemugtm90+e+T+tKD4ygaE32A9/JwjBUqpGKeku9BGffSuJluCuoQ4mlazb yCCKkZYU3KCqv7X4G23JjfyqAuYy8tx1Xn9xagqDaKF30jzjAHNC7EA2igcVt42S+Qls +ZJFn/THLEumvPBhG35K8Ro7Hci0ObELTcAncukKYutV2Sr5BJaFwSiX1VN3fPZOXR1e DU0juhW93k9A4sjqokDXtYSGMIL0739lS3Zhruv5aPnrsoFzcWxFvkgdm9c/CYHEqr8X sqif3USd99VgIzyUfhE+dOvZhqDsNsydWFgqGuVh+jtW3zOu7CZ8R6/85h0TzItQQpK/ 75+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5310jLdTt8kCvzv581RbQyYYjqLAvavAf8Cd63iydTUmwGjio9em QtHwifPEM8ZjFIDjpgig241nbEkr/Tl1SP5TrbQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzDuPFDPijSoyWDt2jBfpDmhoZjZ80xQm70aW/Az40NIdZpcsyQHjnxfwU/MvLzwfNDLyT6MzAW3gNFm6TJ5wQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:17a5:b0:2d9:a01a:5215 with SMTP id bg37-20020a05680817a500b002d9a01a5215mr790914oib.255.1646445182446; Fri, 04 Mar 2022 17:53:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 19:52:52 -0600 Message-ID: To: Victor Bolshov , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003df13305d96ee485" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop Russian agression From: tendoaki@gmail.com (Michael Morris) --0000000000003df13305d96ee485 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 3:31 AM Victor Bolshov wrote: > Hello internals. > > In these dark days for humanity, we as people of civilization, people > of sanity, kind and caring people with children and families - we have > to speak up, loud and clear, in support for Ukraine. To stop Russian > aggression. > > I suggest to add Ukranian flag and a supportive anti-war disclaimer to > the header of php.net website. > > Why is this important? There are a lot of PHP developers in Russia. A > lot of them, sadly, have been brainwashed by Putin's propaganda. They > still must have a lot of respect to PHP authors and creators. Seeing > that these people, who have their respect, are against the war and for > the freedom of Ukraine, might have an impact. > > This is not the time to "stay away from politics", we are experiencing > an attack on humanity itself. Take example from > and their clear statement. > > Say NO to war! > This original post has been met with some controversy. I don't know how much my voice counts, but I will say this. The occasions in history where one side is utterly and completely in the wrong are rare, but they do occur. Russia had no right to invade - period. Attempts on this list have been made to justify Russia's actions, but they are logically tortured as the Nazi justifications for invading Poland or Soviet Russia. Speaking of the Nazis, even Hitler didn't stoop so low as to send in troops utterly unprepared for what they were about to face while lying to them that they'd be lauded as heroes. Neither did Stalin. Putin has done that. Now, you can try to justify certain things. You can try to justify Putin's War, but you will never convince anyone of your position - you can only succeed in proving yourself to be evil. Evil is the complete absence of compassion for the suffering of others, and only someone who is evil can advocate for Putin's War or try to justify it in any measure. Evil is a powerful word - one I do not use lightly. When one side calls another evil they say that there can be no more dialog, no more compromise, no more cooperation. The only correct response to evil is opposition. --0000000000003df13305d96ee485--