Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:117248 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10870 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2022 17:05:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2022 17:05:30 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96F71804B4 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 10:27:16 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: Error (Cannot connect to unix socket '/var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl': connect: Connection refused) X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-ej1-f43.google.com (mail-ej1-f43.google.com [209.85.218.43]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 10:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ej1-f43.google.com with SMTP id hw13so12454916ejc.9 for ; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 10:27:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=YxDQJwaaOBBc/+a83zJLpmGcclYC78asjW1d7edWOeg=; b=eIdhFfCRs1H/BSrpdNApyvvuKPWNV7yj2aJFoWPH5FCx9yaSZ01M3SFkNRMTJXqjgF AZQLB9+TMsjc6u2Y9xL0YiaEdxS4uBNm3o5b1oNv6i+uWwGn3SZ6W5cWDsYgvuVXZPkj 5Dl98i50kxHWv81vPpBd/xGZ/ltixU9CHlTHAoa5rsfEd4ExE5tCf8sgwldHS7muZlQL nby/OT/ha7nutydB7ZHn/WnUEm6u9Y/CeuHti8aPmZYWeGfny42jz6Oz3KDdwMpRpTDE 1v82R5rh4JYvF+WmUPZv4N3RBPKZYSODOPBCchMGd11diigNgJH5/HH0DzNqjwI/vkQl JCJw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YxDQJwaaOBBc/+a83zJLpmGcclYC78asjW1d7edWOeg=; b=jM0vuYss8MLiiLwwgzrbOmtD0+HDW356horjYnwaRCih6XQRrnxrLsWaB7KuxpjuLQ 0MIM0zdiXC6sTtYcHQhT8szfm4ct74dw39BEMfP3AlFcaWC1Kc+cIabIbvGhbbQjogsT EccK+VhLgXU2Y0TCIWTOlbZ/HdMDimniLQqcH5EdQ5D8s284eV1Co2YwK5S04zVMUzis tIcbrkSW7mkWg/E1qV6AbONG/l2JHdOp23XKHuOpTK+/BJAo3D7MpG2XO8XZB561nOh1 S6R5XlNfkLaUmb6vjjilbLMi+IRw1WWbcVrl1YAfh8QnRQdw5fx8mp9g9EhojFDAh/wI XZ3g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532Xs67GbVTBmRevUrl5Ojh6+zUgKRa6CMsvhek7XjjT5ARnxMh8 fCAl85WJn5LDwRlAYo+cHIEYzRQuk7ga7dU9qEm9cNoI X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwyOg+GurRe96pNpoTAN6G7d98H0JWj481rRZuXoaoOhtaVYXwKEtVyTPbuY1Rmb+JNxcwq9gMssKdwQDUM3uk= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:c28:b0:6da:6f40:eced with SMTP id ga40-20020a1709070c2800b006da6f40ecedmr6437764ejc.400.1646332032142; Thu, 03 Mar 2022 10:27:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220303181025.GL26851@phcomp.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 21:27:01 +0300 Message-ID: To: Eugene Sidelnyk Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f54f6a05d9548bf5" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop Russian agression From: maxsem.wiki@gmail.com (Max Semenik) --000000000000f54f6a05d9548bf5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Each of these options would take some time, and time is what On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 9:14 PM Eugene Sidelnyk wrote: > Maybe we'd create an RFC, create an poll and decide this way? > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2022, 8:10 PM Alain D D Williams wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 07:56:39PM +0200, Eugene Sidelnyk wrote: > > > > > If you, as PHP community, do not do anything about it, it would mean > that > > > you don't care. Well, everyone who writes php internals is for > discussion > > > of php internals only doesn't care and probably won't. > > > > Not true, I do care. I have done several things, eg: the Ukraine flag is > > on my > > own web site. > > > > However: I do not believe that it is right for this to be on the php.net > > web > > site. PHP is not either a political organisation nor something with a > high > > public profile: we are not FIFA. If we support Ukraine who else do we > > support. > > > > We can encourage that those on this list should show their support in > > their own > > way. We can not put it stronger than that; we might also find that some > on > > this > > list might support what Putin is doing, we must respect their views - if > so > > then discussion with them should be elsewhere - not on this list. > > > > I am very sympathetic, but I think that PHP should avoid this issue. > > > > -- > > Alain Williams > > Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, > IT > > Lecturer. > > +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ > > Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: > > https://www.phcomp.co.uk/Contact.html > > #include > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > -- Best regards, Max Semenik --000000000000f54f6a05d9548bf5--